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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,880




    Just in case anyone was wondering, this guy is taking the coaching change in a very calm and reasoned manner
    Is there a fan more racist than SubK?
    Me. I hate white coaches even more than him.
    Confirmed New Years resolution for Fudgie was turning into a 50 year old fat Karen
    You already are a 50 year old fat Karen
  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,828 Founders Club




    Just in case anyone was wondering, this guy is taking the coaching change in a very calm and reasoned manner
    Is there a fan more racist than SubK?
    Me. I hate white coaches even more than him.
    Confirmed New Years resolution for Fudgie was turning into a 50 year old fat Karen
    You already are a 50 year old fat Karen
    Welcome to the club then
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,880




    Just in case anyone was wondering, this guy is taking the coaching change in a very calm and reasoned manner
    Is there a fan more racist than SubK?
    Me. I hate white coaches even more than him.
    Confirmed New Years resolution for Fudgie was turning into a 50 year old fat Karen
    You already are a 50 year old fat Karen
    Welcome to the club then
    Give me 28 years
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,121 Standard Supporter


    I’ve noticed socially that my friends and myself that went to college are much more able to fit in with any type of person better than my friends that stayed home and worked. It does help immensely to get out of your comfort level and have to make new friends.

    @RoadDawg55 that's a fair point. The intangible value of socialization and particularly in new environments helps, particularly jobs that require more people-person skills. I guess I take that somewhat for granted and the intellectual curiosity that I furthered during college that permits me to be a more well-rounded citizen and human. Plus, it makes me more chinteresting at cocktail parties!
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,121 Standard Supporter
    Btw, have we hired Brian Hartline away from Ohio State yet?
  • EmotermanEmoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    HFNY said:

    Btw, have we hired Brian Hartline away from Ohio State yet?

    Make him the OC, let the MWC dorks take a step back, pay him 2mm.
  • RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    dtd said:

    I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.


    Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)



    My two thoughts:
    1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.

    2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.

    1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.

    2. Memphis of the West
    1. Your observational data aligns with teachers telling kids to learn how to add fractions or they’ll end up as plumbers digging in toilets - but fail to mention that the plumbers make twice as much money as them. However the data I’m referring to is new and shows that based on earnings just two years after graduation 76% of BA/BS degree holders are earning enough to where ten years after graduation they should have recouped their investment.
    This doesn’t take into account the higher employment rates, health insurance rates, and the rates of not being in poverty. The study is from 2020/21 and didn’t take the rocketing inflation into consideration.
    The 24% of those who don’t recoup in ten years should still come out ahead in the long run and the numbers are skewed by more expensive private and for profit institutions. The obvious majors are the ones with poor return: religious studies, anthropology, film, etc.

    It’s still true, maybe not as obvious as in the past, but go to a state school and get a degree that isn’t 100% fluff and you’re going to be better off than most people without one.

    2. I wish, Memphis had some monster offensive numbers. This feels more like an amalgamation of a watered down, poor man’s Saban/Kirby recruiting wins system, with a strong Jim Mora flavor Jr and Todd Graham aftertaste.
    *sigh

    Re: data

    TLDR YMMV and correlation ain't causation.
    I don’t brew anything beyond cold brew coffee. I fiddled with beer for a while. It was an interesting concept, at the time I used to drink and appreciate it, and I’m always of the notion that I can do something better than almost everyone else if I try. My beer was actually pretty good despite me humbly underselling it, but I didn’t have the passion or interest to pursue the hobby any further. Instead, I got into playing tennis. Worse for the knees, but much better for the liver.

    I’m sharing this so you don’t have to feel bad about the lack of correlation between your username and the results that it yields.

    I’ll give you credit for attempting to mention the hidden variables any data like this will entail. The people who get college degrees were already likelier to have higher incomes based on their socio-economic background, intelligence, ambition, primary education, desire to seek full employment, opportunity, regional differences, and a variety of other factors that are so numerous it would make creating two sets of data to compare nearly impossible.

    I’ll also add that I agree that too many people are going to college, the return on a degree has declined, some degrees are not worth the opportunity cost - all these obvious things that college grads want to crown themselves as champions of the proletariat for agreeing with. As if it costs their diploma prestige points that they’re valiantly sacrificing.

    I could (don’t worry, I won’t) explain the various statistics that show I’m right. We could look at the opportunity costs associated with not attending college or required of getting a blue collar job with a comparable income to a mid level bachelors degree, the time value of money, social costs such as the likelihood of marrying someone with similar educational status and the resulting doubling of what you perceive to be a small income gap, financial literacy the likelier physical toll of a blue collar job and the effect on life expectancy or healthcare costs - and many more boring things.

    I never took Brevity 121, it wasn’t a required pre-req, so I suppressed my desire to explain even more. Like a Trading Places Duke Brothers style experiment I had in mind, or using Plinko as a visual example of the doors that become closed to those who don’t pursue higher education. Maybe the status quo will change in the next 20 years and you’ll be right. It’s very possible - just ask any Nebraska, Washington, or Virginia Tech fan.
    I didn't read this, but are you taking the gloves off?
    Just one, got Vaseline in the other.


  • EmotermanEmoterman Member Posts: 3,333

    dtd said:

    I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.


    Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)



    My two thoughts:
    1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.

    2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.

    1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.

    2. Memphis of the West
    1. Your observational data aligns with teachers telling kids to learn how to add fractions or they’ll end up as plumbers digging in toilets - but fail to mention that the plumbers make twice as much money as them. However the data I’m referring to is new and shows that based on earnings just two years after graduation 76% of BA/BS degree holders are earning enough to where ten years after graduation they should have recouped their investment.
    This doesn’t take into account the higher employment rates, health insurance rates, and the rates of not being in poverty. The study is from 2020/21 and didn’t take the rocketing inflation into consideration.
    The 24% of those who don’t recoup in ten years should still come out ahead in the long run and the numbers are skewed by more expensive private and for profit institutions. The obvious majors are the ones with poor return: religious studies, anthropology, film, etc.

    It’s still true, maybe not as obvious as in the past, but go to a state school and get a degree that isn’t 100% fluff and you’re going to be better off than most people without one.

    2. I wish, Memphis had some monster offensive numbers. This feels more like an amalgamation of a watered down, poor man’s Saban/Kirby recruiting wins system, with a strong Jim Mora flavor Jr and Todd Graham aftertaste.
    *sigh

    Re: data

    TLDR YMMV and correlation ain't causation.
    I don’t brew anything beyond cold brew coffee. I fiddled with beer for a while. It was an interesting concept, at the time I used to drink and appreciate it, and I’m always of the notion that I can do something better than almost everyone else if I try. My beer was actually pretty good despite me humbly underselling it, but I didn’t have the passion or interest to pursue the hobby any further. Instead, I got into playing tennis. Worse for the knees, but much better for the liver.

    I’m sharing this so you don’t have to feel bad about the lack of correlation between your username and the results that it yields.

    I’ll give you credit for attempting to mention the hidden variables any data like this will entail. The people who get college degrees were already likelier to have higher incomes based on their socio-economic background, intelligence, ambition, primary education, desire to seek full employment, opportunity, regional differences, and a variety of other factors that are so numerous it would make creating two sets of data to compare nearly impossible.

    I’ll also add that I agree that too many people are going to college, the return on a degree has declined, some degrees are not worth the opportunity cost - all these obvious things that college grads want to crown themselves as champions of the proletariat for agreeing with. As if it costs their diploma prestige points that they’re valiantly sacrificing.

    I could (don’t worry, I won’t) explain the various statistics that show I’m right. We could look at the opportunity costs associated with not attending college or required of getting a blue collar job with a comparable income to a mid level bachelors degree, the time value of money, social costs such as the likelihood of marrying someone with similar educational status and the resulting doubling of what you perceive to be a small income gap, financial literacy the likelier physical toll of a blue collar job and the effect on life expectancy or healthcare costs - and many more boring things.

    I never took Brevity 121, it wasn’t a required pre-req, so I suppressed my desire to explain even more. Like a Trading Places Duke Brothers style experiment I had in mind, or using Plinko as a visual example of the doors that become closed to those who don’t pursue higher education. Maybe the status quo will change in the next 20 years and you’ll be right. It’s very possible - just ask any Nebraska, Washington, or Virginia Tech fan.
    I didn't read this, but are you taking the gloves off?
    Just one, got Vaseline in the other.


    I get this literary reference, too!

    расскажи мне о кроликах, Юрий!
  • ChillyDawgChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
    The official Oregon Ducks press release of Adams signing...

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,981 Swaye's Wigwam

    The official Oregon Ducks press release of Adams signing...

    #repthenorth #scoducks #firejencohen
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,880
    Doogles said:

    He's not a good coach. Can Oregon poach Huff too please

    They hired Klemm, who is way worse. Just axe Mike Tomlin
  • doogvilledoogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,215 Swaye's Wigwam

    Doogles said:

    He's not a good coach. Can Oregon poach Huff too please

    They hired Klemm, who is way worse. Just axe Mike Tomlin
    This is dumb. Tomlin literally promoted Klemm last year. If he thought he sucked, he would have shown him the door.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,879 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogville said:

    Doogles said:

    He's not a good coach. Can Oregon poach Huff too please

    They hired Klemm, who is way worse. Just axe Mike Tomlin
    This is dumb. Tomlin literally promoted Klemm last year. If he thought he sucked, he would have shown him the door.
    They have the worst OL in the NFL this season and he didn't do anything to stop him when he left. He probably knew he was on the way out.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,359

    doogville said:

    Doogles said:

    He's not a good coach. Can Oregon poach Huff too please

    They hired Klemm, who is way worse. Just axe Mike Tomlin
    This is dumb. Tomlin literally promoted Klemm last year. If he thought he sucked, he would have shown him the door.
    They have the worst OL in the NFL this season and he didn't do anything to stop him when he left. He probably knew he was on the way out.
    He was also an unbelievable failure at UCLA when Mora was there.
  • RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    doogville said:

    Doogles said:

    He's not a good coach. Can Oregon poach Huff too please

    They hired Klemm, who is way worse. Just axe Mike Tomlin
    This is dumb. Tomlin literally promoted Klemm last year. If he thought he sucked, he would have shown him the door.
    They have the worst OL in the NFL this season and he didn't do anything to stop him when he left. He probably knew he was on the way out.
    More pertinently - where do they rank in the Mountain West?

    I’m not very familiar with the NFL, maybe you can help.

    * Who is this Mike Tomlin that has employed Klemm for the last three years? Is he considered a good coach? Has he won any Grey Cups or Ryder Trophys? At least a Lady Bing or a Calder?

    * What criteria determines the worst OL in the NFL? I’m a bit confused, every statistic I could find that could be relevant doesn’t show me. I’ll take your word for it - I’m assuming that young, handsome potato that plays quarterback for them must be the saving grace.

    * A closer look shows the Pittsburg Eaglers are starting three guys on the offensive line who have the word ROOK by their name, is that a chess reference? Like, they’re solid end pieces? That seems very bad then if they have three Rooks yet they’re still allowing the Queen (the handsome QB potato) to be sacked more often than 11 of the 31 other teams. The potato is 39 years old, I’m guessing he’s been able to use his wiles to avoid getting sacked even more often. It’s also troubling that there are five teams worse at getting rushing yards, although last season it was zero teams. I’ll chalk that up to adding the running back who averages 4.0 yards per carry.

    * I’ve heard that the best offensive lines value first half play and the second half is for try hards. That must mean the Pitts are extra bad, six of their eight wins have been fourth quarter comebacks. If they were better they wouldn’t need to have all those fourth quarter come backs.

    Further research shows that Adrian Klemm is a girl name, which is even worse than a child’s name like Junior Adams. Klemm received a show-cause penalty, which means improprieties occurred in recruiting. As an Oregon fan I am dismayed at the prospect of using unfair advantages to entice young men to receive degrees in journalism. I have recently read that this dooms them to a future of abject poverty.
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