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RaceBannon said:

Emoterman said:

RaceBannon said:

The coaches lose their gravy train when the golden goose is cooked

No one wins including networks and media. What would NFL rights be worth without college ball and Thursday to Monday to fill up with games?

I'll keep reminding everyone colleges don't have to do this

Unions or employees or payrolls isn't happening. There's nothing in it for the school.

Many fine institutions already hate football. I'm a fan of one of them

Paying coaches 10mm per annum has nothing in it for the school, but they do it because FB and MBB buoy the non revenue sports. They'll administer player salaries if that's the adaptation it takes to keep this pig alive. At this point, the pig probably needs to die, but it will be kept shambling along as long as possible.

Players as employees brings in labor and industry and a lifetime of insurance payouts and a liability

If colleges can fund sports no one will pay to watch by having a great football team they will

If they can't they won't and no one will miss volleyball

I don't care if players get paid I'm just convinced they won't

Legally that is

I still watch the teams that try and enjoy it while I can

The administration will miss volleyball, as sports are long codified as part of the university's mission in the maturation of young adults.

I'm sure the payouts can be tabbed the same as cash stipends are currently, no further liability. For a time at least.

This thing truly is dead, glad I got my Seahawks tickets. 😬

AEB said:

YellowSnow said:

Emoterman said:

YellowSnow said:

1to392831weretaken said:

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

Plus one and be done

Restore the tie ins and make New Year's Day great again

The “cherry bowl” was the best thing @Dennis_DeYoung ever argued for. 1 vs 2 in the AP poll a few weeks after the NYD bowl games.

Georgia already lost to Bammer. I don’t believe in second chances including conference championship games.

Wasn't this the system that already existed in the early BCS days? Then they expanded it to four?

I used to argue for an expanded playoff, but now I really don't give a shit. NIL, the portal, and insane coaching salaries have broken college football. It's like taking the worst of professional sports, turbocharging it, and mixing it with an on-field product less balanced and competitive than high school ball. It's been a long time since I've given a shit about the NFL, as I've always chased the purity and variety of college ball. I can see a world where people like me just start watching high school ball to get our fix.

I’ve started admitting to my NFL first buddies that the league now has a better product. It pains me to say it but it’s the truth.

I wish we could make this offer to the kids: no NIL and no instant transfer portal in exchange for being able to be drafted straight outta high school if needed.

I’d rather deal with one and dones vs the current bull shit.

NFL won't draft 18 year olds to directly play against 28 year old men. There are exactly zero who are ready for it... Well maybe a godlike kicker or punter could hack it. This wouldn't happen without farm leagues, and NFL is perfectly content with the ridiculously robust, wide, and deep farm league they've got.

Of course they (NFL) won't. But NIL is by far the biggest crock of bullshit yet to descend upon college football.

If a kid's good enough earn money playing sports ball, let them go do it in the pros and leave the college game alone.

While I agree with the sentiment that the college game is a joke now or becoming one, I disagree about not paying the players. College coaches by in large are fucking dumbass douches who are grossly overpaid. The source of their incomes are conference TV contracts delivering a product played by the players. NIL is stupid but something better should replace it. Eventually the players are going to strike. Book it.

As an aside, I met Tedford in the early 2000s while at Berkeley. He’s held a high regard by HH. He’s a fucking meat too.

Private boosters fuel a lot of it. How much dead buyout money comes from boosters pockets? It's not just official school revenue.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

The fans make it what it is. As long as fans want it, it will exist.

The unlimited portal is rertarded because it fucks with the fans who are the lifeblood.

Regional game, built on regional passions. When players stop sharing that it's a fuck you to the fan.

Pride for the institution is paramount. Constraints on the players are essential.

Your last sentence nails it. Too many pro-player idiots have a backwards view of the value proposition that college football brings.

It is not and never has been about the players. Prioritize them and the "get what's yours" mentality, and you have a sport that is slowly eroding. And as a result the next generation of player won't get anything.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

AEB said:

YellowSnow said:

Emoterman said:

YellowSnow said:

1to392831weretaken said:

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

Plus one and be done

Restore the tie ins and make New Year's Day great again

The “cherry bowl” was the best thing @Dennis_DeYoung ever argued for. 1 vs 2 in the AP poll a few weeks after the NYD bowl games.

Georgia already lost to Bammer. I don’t believe in second chances including conference championship games.

Wasn't this the system that already existed in the early BCS days? Then they expanded it to four?

I used to argue for an expanded playoff, but now I really don't give a shit. NIL, the portal, and insane coaching salaries have broken college football. It's like taking the worst of professional sports, turbocharging it, and mixing it with an on-field product less balanced and competitive than high school ball. It's been a long time since I've given a shit about the NFL, as I've always chased the purity and variety of college ball. I can see a world where people like me just start watching high school ball to get our fix.

I’ve started admitting to my NFL first buddies that the league now has a better product. It pains me to say it but it’s the truth.

I wish we could make this offer to the kids: no NIL and no instant transfer portal in exchange for being able to be drafted straight outta high school if needed.

I’d rather deal with one and dones vs the current bull shit.

NFL won't draft 18 year olds to directly play against 28 year old men. There are exactly zero who are ready for it... Well maybe a godlike kicker or punter could hack it. This wouldn't happen without farm leagues, and NFL is perfectly content with the ridiculously robust, wide, and deep farm league they've got.

Of course they (NFL) won't. But NIL is by far the biggest crock of bullshit yet to descend upon college football.

If a kid's good enough earn money playing sports ball, let them go do it in the pros and leave the college game alone.

While I agree with the sentiment that the college game is a joke now or becoming one, I disagree about not paying the players. College coaches by in large are fucking dumbass douches who are grossly overpaid. The source of their incomes are conference TV contracts delivering a product played by the players. NIL is stupid but something better should replace it. Eventually the players are going to strike. Book it.

As an aside, I met Tedford in the early 2000s while at Berkeley. He’s held a high regard by HH. He’s a fucking meat too.

Players may strike at individual institutions but nationally, unless they have uniform national representation, they won't.

Keep in mind that the best-compensated players will be in anti-labor red states, fat and happy, they won't rock the boat.

Pretty hard for the best compensated players to play without everyone else. NIL probably drives unionization even faster as the have-nots become envious of and embittered towards the players who are getting paid.

Emoterman said:

YellowSnow said:

AEB said:

YellowSnow said:

Emoterman said:

YellowSnow said:

1to392831weretaken said:

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

Plus one and be done

Restore the tie ins and make New Year's Day great again

The “cherry bowl” was the best thing @Dennis_DeYoung ever argued for. 1 vs 2 in the AP poll a few weeks after the NYD bowl games.

Georgia already lost to Bammer. I don’t believe in second chances including conference championship games.

Wasn't this the system that already existed in the early BCS days? Then they expanded it to four?

I used to argue for an expanded playoff, but now I really don't give a shit. NIL, the portal, and insane coaching salaries have broken college football. It's like taking the worst of professional sports, turbocharging it, and mixing it with an on-field product less balanced and competitive than high school ball. It's been a long time since I've given a shit about the NFL, as I've always chased the purity and variety of college ball. I can see a world where people like me just start watching high school ball to get our fix.

I’ve started admitting to my NFL first buddies that the league now has a better product. It pains me to say it but it’s the truth.

I wish we could make this offer to the kids: no NIL and no instant transfer portal in exchange for being able to be drafted straight outta high school if needed.

I’d rather deal with one and dones vs the current bull shit.

NFL won't draft 18 year olds to directly play against 28 year old men. There are exactly zero who are ready for it... Well maybe a godlike kicker or punter could hack it. This wouldn't happen without farm leagues, and NFL is perfectly content with the ridiculously robust, wide, and deep farm league they've got.

Of course they (NFL) won't. But NIL is by far the biggest crock of bullshit yet to descend upon college football.

If a kid's good enough earn money playing sports ball, let them go do it in the pros and leave the college game alone.

While I agree with the sentiment that the college game is a joke now or becoming one, I disagree about not paying the players. College coaches by in large are fucking dumbass douches who are grossly overpaid. The source of their incomes are conference TV contracts delivering a product played by the players. NIL is stupid but something better should replace it. Eventually the players are going to strike. Book it.

As an aside, I met Tedford in the early 2000s while at Berkeley. He’s held a high regard by HH. He’s a fucking meat too.

The coaching salaries are a joke. I just don’t know how you fix that at this point.

Players unionize, demand a share of revenues to be shared roughly equally amongst all players, and eat into the coaches' lucre.

What was the driving force behind the infinite portal, by the way? I assume it will die down when portal products never see the field at their new school, but for now it's a shit show.

I doubt that would drive down coaching salaries. What it would do is kill off non-revenue sports at schools.

Emoterman said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

AEB said:

YellowSnow said:

Emoterman said:

YellowSnow said:

1to392831weretaken said:

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

Plus one and be done

Restore the tie ins and make New Year's Day great again

The “cherry bowl” was the best thing @Dennis_DeYoung ever argued for. 1 vs 2 in the AP poll a few weeks after the NYD bowl games.

Georgia already lost to Bammer. I don’t believe in second chances including conference championship games.

Wasn't this the system that already existed in the early BCS days? Then they expanded it to four?

I used to argue for an expanded playoff, but now I really don't give a shit. NIL, the portal, and insane coaching salaries have broken college football. It's like taking the worst of professional sports, turbocharging it, and mixing it with an on-field product less balanced and competitive than high school ball. It's been a long time since I've given a shit about the NFL, as I've always chased the purity and variety of college ball. I can see a world where people like me just start watching high school ball to get our fix.

I’ve started admitting to my NFL first buddies that the league now has a better product. It pains me to say it but it’s the truth.

I wish we could make this offer to the kids: no NIL and no instant transfer portal in exchange for being able to be drafted straight outta high school if needed.

I’d rather deal with one and dones vs the current bull shit.

NFL won't draft 18 year olds to directly play against 28 year old men. There are exactly zero who are ready for it... Well maybe a godlike kicker or punter could hack it. This wouldn't happen without farm leagues, and NFL is perfectly content with the ridiculously robust, wide, and deep farm league they've got.

Of course they (NFL) won't. But NIL is by far the biggest crock of bullshit yet to descend upon college football.

If a kid's good enough earn money playing sports ball, let them go do it in the pros and leave the college game alone.

While I agree with the sentiment that the college game is a joke now or becoming one, I disagree about not paying the players. College coaches by in large are fucking dumbass douches who are grossly overpaid. The source of their incomes are conference TV contracts delivering a product played by the players. NIL is stupid but something better should replace it. Eventually the players are going to strike. Book it.

As an aside, I met Tedford in the early 2000s while at Berkeley. He’s held a high regard by HH. He’s a fucking meat too.

Players may strike at individual institutions but nationally, unless they have uniform national representation, they won't.

Keep in mind that the best-compensated players will be in anti-labor red states, fat and happy, they won't rock the boat.

Pretty hard for the best compensated players to play without everyone else. NIL probably drives unionization even faster as the have-nots become envious of and embittered towards the players who are getting paid.

I don't think players share uniform grievances. The only ones who feel exploited will be the ones who actually care about studying and are not competing for championships. i.e. Cal and Northwestern players.

The SEC players would never strike because so many are taken care of financially and football is a religion and cultural obligation. They have systematic academic fraud in place. Also, keep in mind tons of CFB players pushed to play in the covid year, they didn't want a "work stoppage" over questionable conditions.

The SEC played a full season by itself just fine. They don't need the rest of the country to play.

Pac players might strike. In any case, if player compensation is tied to conference TV packages then it will be a tiered system, SEC at the top, Big behind, Pac in the rear. And the talent hemorrage from the Pac footprint will only accelerate.