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ZTF...Staying Or Leaving???

ChillyDawg
ChillyDawg Member Posts: 1,469
edited December 2021 in Hardcore Husky Board
I get the sense that he may already have one foot out of the door. Most likely has some offers from some better programs in his back pocket. I don't think that he will return to Montlake. I find it very believable that he will look to better his 2023 NFL draft status by transferring to a program in a better position for him to be more successful on the football field.



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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,632 Founders Club
    Another Deboner red flag
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  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Only if he can’t retain him.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,563 Swaye's Wigwam
    W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.

    Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else?
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    godawgst said:

    W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.

    Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else?

    They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.
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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,563 Swaye's Wigwam
    AtomicDawg said:

    godawgst said:

    W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.

    Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else?

    They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.
    I think what stopped him was classes he still needed to finish to get up here would not have allowed him to be here for spring ball, and made it so the soonest he could be here was June 1st.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    godawgst said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    godawgst said:

    W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.

    Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else?

    They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.
    I think what stopped him was classes he still needed to finish to get up here would not have allowed him to be here for spring ball, and made it so the soonest he could be here was June 1st.
    Yes because they didn’t give him a free year so he would have had to be a grad transfer. Surprising given how limp dick the ncaa has been, but they dropped their 2 inches of thunder on haener for whatever reason.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,632 Founders Club
    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,632 Founders Club
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.

    Players need to have some skin in the game. This is kind of ridiculous. But the players have to have some freedom. There needs to be a middle ground.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,175


    That’s a career destroying injury more often than not for a position where the most important attribute is first step fast twitch speed.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,376 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.

    Coaches leave too. Everyone is acting like pussies. It’s a business now. Players get paid. Coaches make a ton of money. Everyone is capable of figuring it out.
    Coaches leave relatively freely in every major sport. And every major sport, even with descrepencies in the strength of their respective players unions, nonetheless puts heavy constraints on how freely the players can move year over year. That's the eternal model of profitable sports, and it fucking works.

    A player free-for-all, in both NIL and unlimited "one-time" transfers, is rotting the sport. I don't think the end game here is going to work out for anyone.
    As much as I don’t have an emotional connection to the NFL product, I respect honesty and overall fairness of it.
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,388
    Make it so players can transfer if their head coach leaves. Otherwise sign the paper and suck it up
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Mad_Son said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    Fresno was

    #34 in ypg
    #31 in ypp
    #20 in ppg

    Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
    @NeGgaPlEaSe said it and nobody fact checked him. Except me of course.
    Good job Pup!
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Mad_Son said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    Fresno was

    #34 in ypg
    #31 in ypp
    #20 in ppg

    Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
    Also for offense

    #13 in ypg
    #21 in ypp
    #27 in ppg


    All in all these seem like pretty good stats for a G5 team that played P5 twice. Could be better for sure but plenty to sell there.
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  • GaearGrimsrud
    GaearGrimsrud Member Posts: 82
    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    I was thinking Appalachian State....Georgia Southern....maybe Liberty. They get to go to one of those bowl things.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    AtomicDawg said:

    Mad_Son said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    Fresno was

    #34 in ypg
    #31 in ypp
    #20 in ppg

    Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
    This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.

    For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen.

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  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,657 Founders Club
    AtomicDawg said:

    Mad_Son said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    Fresno was

    #34 in ypg
    #31 in ypp
    #20 in ppg

    Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
    This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.

    For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen.
    These defensive stats are paired with a real offense. Not one that was designed to keep all scoring at a minimum. I’m feeling bullish on these coaches. Definitely enough to LIPO without jumping off imaginary trains.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,345 Standard Supporter
    DerekJohnson said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.

    Players need to have some skin in the game. This is kind of ridiculous. But the players have to have some freedom. There needs to be a middle ground.
    Agree. The portal stuff is by far worse than free agency. I think the kids should have to stay at least their first two years. Maybe even say you're not eligible to transfer until you're eligible to leave to the NFL (3 years out of HS). Otherwise college football is going to become AAU.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Collective bargaining should be deemed a statutory right if the athletes are deemed to be employees. But Congress could decide otherwise. I view the status quo as increasingly untenable, but that’s a lay opinion.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,691 Swaye's Wigwam
    AtomicDawg said:

    Mad_Son said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Another Deboner red flag

    Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.
    How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?

    Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
    Fresno was

    #34 in ypg
    #31 in ypp
    #20 in ppg

    Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
    This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.

    For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen.
    That's what doogs do, or so one might believe if they came in blind and read this site. Reactionary fits are what *we pay $10.95 for though, so I don't out up any resistance to it.
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