ZTF...Staying Or Leaving???

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Another Deboner red flag
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Only if he can’t retain him.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
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Having to recruit every single one of your good players, year in and year out, is such a fucking waste of time for a coaching staff. In a profession that is already bogged down by the tireless pursuit of shitty 16 year old kids.
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Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
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This.GreenRiverGatorz said:Having to recruit every single one of your good players, year in and year out, is such a fucking waste of time for a coaching staff. In a profession that is already bogged down by the tireless pursuit of shitty 16 year old kids.
What shit show college football has become with the portal and NIL. -
I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
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Coaches leave too. Everyone is acting like pussies. It’s a business now. Players get paid. Coaches make a ton of money. Everyone is capable of figuring it out.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
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W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.
Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else? -
They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.godawgst said:W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.
Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else?
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I think what stopped him was classes he still needed to finish to get up here would not have allowed him to be here for spring ball, and made it so the soonest he could be here was June 1st.AtomicDawg said:
They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.godawgst said:W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.
Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else? -
Yes because they didn’t give him a free year so he would have had to be a grad transfer. Surprising given how limp dick the ncaa has been, but they dropped their 2 inches of thunder on haener for whatever reason.godawgst said:
I think what stopped him was classes he still needed to finish to get up here would not have allowed him to be here for spring ball, and made it so the soonest he could be here was June 1st.AtomicDawg said:
They just stopped haener from transferring and he never got free year. Had to sit out. But still.godawgst said:W/ regards to ZTF imo he is Gonzo. He's got to get much much better at holding the edge on runs.
Since we have essentially unlimited free agency in college (kids get one free transfer a year, but there is no chance NCAA is going to stop a player a 2nd time and face the backlish) I wonder how long b4 we see the opposite where coaches can move on from kids as well thus freeing up a scholly to use on someone else? -
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation. -
Players need to have some skin in the game. This is kind of ridiculous. But the players have to have some freedom. There needs to be a middle ground.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
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Coaches leave relatively freely in every major sport. And every major sport, even with descrepencies in the strength of their respective players unions, nonetheless puts heavy constraints on how freely the players can move year over year. That's the eternal model of profitable sports, and it fucking works.AtomicDawg said:
Coaches leave too. Everyone is acting like pussies. It’s a business now. Players get paid. Coaches make a ton of money. Everyone is capable of figuring it out.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
A player free-for-all, in both NIL and unlimited "one-time" transfers, is rotting the sport. I don't think the end game here is going to work out for anyone. -
None of those situations are any better than uw. He is not guaranteed to play at Utah or any school with good talent. I didn’t say uw was the best spot either, just not worse than any other. It’s a big risk or a lateral move. At uw he is obviously gonna play and that’s what he needs if he has a shot at the pros.DerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
Also what metric is showing Fresno with the 80th ranked defense. Scoring defense had them at 20 ppg just ahead of our famous doog legend fighting matt campbells.
I know there are way better metrics than ppg because our defense sucked and didn’t give up a ton of points. I just don’t know where the 80th ranked defense is coming from.
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That’s a career destroying injury more often than not for a position where the most important attribute is first step fast twitch speed. -
As much as I don’t have an emotional connection to the NFL product, I respect honesty and overall fairness of it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Coaches leave relatively freely in every major sport. And every major sport, even with descrepencies in the strength of their respective players unions, nonetheless puts heavy constraints on how freely the players can move year over year. That's the eternal model of profitable sports, and it fucking works.AtomicDawg said:
Coaches leave too. Everyone is acting like pussies. It’s a business now. Players get paid. Coaches make a ton of money. Everyone is capable of figuring it out.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
A player free-for-all, in both NIL and unlimited "one-time" transfers, is rotting the sport. I don't think the end game here is going to work out for anyone. -
Make it so players can transfer if their head coach leaves. Otherwise sign the paper and suck it up
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Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from -
@NeGgaPlEaSe said it and nobody fact checked him. Except me of course.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from -
Good job Pup!GreenRiverGatorz said:
@NeGgaPlEaSe said it and nobody fact checked him. Except me of course.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
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Also for offenseMad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
#13 in ypg
#21 in ypp
#27 in ppg
All in all these seem like pretty good stats for a G5 team that played P5 twice. Could be better for sure but plenty to sell there. -
This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen. -
I was thinking Appalachian State....Georgia Southern....maybe Liberty. They get to go to one of those bowl things.DerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation. -
AtomicDawg said:
This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen.
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These defensive stats are paired with a real offense. Not one that was designed to keep all scoring at a minimum. I’m feeling bullish on these coaches. Definitely enough to LIPO without jumping off imaginary trains.AtomicDawg said:
This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen. -
Well if he adds those three numbers it comes up to 85. Maybe that’s what he meant.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from -
Agree. The portal stuff is by far worse than free agency. I think the kids should have to stay at least their first two years. Maybe even say you're not eligible to transfer until you're eligible to leave to the NFL (3 years out of HS). Otherwise college football is going to become AAU.DerekJohnson said:
Players need to have some skin in the game. This is kind of ridiculous. But the players have to have some freedom. There needs to be a middle ground.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:I have a feeling coaches are gonna call for some rules around the portal at will situation. Things like Haener transferring after season’s announced the starter can fuck up too many teams. On top of that, if you get unexpected portals at seasons end, you’re then scrambling to balance you roster with only a few weeks before early signing day.
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Collective bargaining should be deemed a statutory right if the athletes are deemed to be employees. But Congress could decide otherwise. I view the status quo as increasingly untenable, but that’s a lay opinion.
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That's what doogs do, or so one might believe if they came in blind and read this site. Reactionary fits are what *we pay $10.95 for though, so I don't out up any resistance to it.AtomicDawg said:
This has legs. 81 is now the default ranking for any stat on this site.Mad_Son said:
Fresno wasDerekJohnson said:
How is UW the best situation? With Fresno coaches that guided the nation's #81 ranked defense?AtomicDawg said:
Ztf should be thinking one and done. I can’t imagine a better situation than uw. I can think of a bunch of lateral moves which would seem peculiar. Have no idea of his mindset though.DerekJohnson said:Another Deboner red flag
Oregon would be a better situation. Utah would be a better situation. Texas A&M would be a better situation.
#34 in ypg
#31 in ypp
#20 in ppg
Not sure where #81 defense is coming from
For all the ass blasting that’s been going on about the lack of Sizzle these hires have for the staff, nobody actually cared to check if any of these guys were actually good at their jobs. Sad to see how far hch has fallen.