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I got a lot more respect for Crisco now. I honestly thought he would be scared of taking the Miami job over sitting in Eugene with Phil and Nike, facilities and a Pac-12 full of charity cases and making really good money. Miami has a way higher ceiling than Oregon to me but a way lower floor for where he is right now. With his commitment to recruiting and if Clemson keeps slipping he could do big things there. That said, I hope he loses every game there.
I got a lot more respect for Crisco now. I honestly thought he would be scared of taking the Miami job over sitting in Eugene with Phil and Nike, facilities and a Pac-12 full of charity cases and making really good money. Miami has a way higher ceiling than Oregon to me but a way lower floor for where he is right now. With his commitment to recruiting and if Clemson keeps slipping he could do big things there. That said, I hope he loses every game there. I hope he wins a national championship.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move. You're looking at composite. When I posted composite rankings (Oregon finished 7th in Helfrich's last year) earlier you counted with 247 (Helfrich finished 5th his last year). Pick a lane. His last year Oregon finished 27 nationally and 5th in the pac 12. UW was 29th and 6th. I was looking at this.Whatever, it doesn't matter. The differences between 247 and composite aren't stark enough to make any huge difference.We'll go with your metric. Bottom line doesn't change anything I said. If 27th is Oregon recruiting itself I'm just fine with Oregon recruiting itself. Helfrich’s last year was their floor. Which was higher than UWs floor. Expect the trend to continue. A dumbass on his last legs out recruited UW. It’s the Nike factor. If all were arguing is that their recruiting floor is higher than ours then I agree with you.I just don’t think that’s especially important.You said earlier their floor is higher than our ceiling which is simply not true.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move. You're looking at composite. When I posted composite rankings (Oregon finished 7th in Helfrich's last year) earlier you counted with 247 (Helfrich finished 5th his last year). Pick a lane. His last year Oregon finished 27 nationally and 5th in the pac 12. UW was 29th and 6th. I was looking at this.Whatever, it doesn't matter. The differences between 247 and composite aren't stark enough to make any huge difference.We'll go with your metric. Bottom line doesn't change anything I said. If 27th is Oregon recruiting itself I'm just fine with Oregon recruiting itself. Helfrich’s last year was their floor. Which was higher than UWs floor. Expect the trend to continue. A dumbass on his last legs out recruited UW. It’s the Nike factor.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move. You're looking at composite. When I posted composite rankings (Oregon finished 7th in Helfrich's last year) earlier you counted with 247 (Helfrich finished 5th his last year). Pick a lane. His last year Oregon finished 27 nationally and 5th in the pac 12. UW was 29th and 6th. I was looking at this.Whatever, it doesn't matter. The differences between 247 and composite aren't stark enough to make any huge difference.We'll go with your metric. Bottom line doesn't change anything I said. If 27th is Oregon recruiting itself I'm just fine with Oregon recruiting itself.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move. You're looking at composite. When I posted composite rankings (Oregon finished 7th in Helfrich's last year) earlier you counted with 247 (Helfrich finished 5th his last year). Pick a lane. His last year Oregon finished 27 nationally and 5th in the pac 12. UW was 29th and 6th.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move. You're looking at composite. When I posted composite rankings (Oregon finished 7th in Helfrich's last year) earlier you counted with 247 (Helfrich finished 5th his last year). Pick a lane.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move. Might want to check the final rankings vs before recruiting is over. AlsoI know you have been around. Just intuitively does UW out recruiting Oregon pass the sniff test? It doesn’t because it didn’t happen Your move.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16 Facts checked.Your move.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6 Umm… check the facts. Per 247. Maybe you were looking at softball. https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2019-Football/Commits/2017. UO 19 UW 222018. UO 13 UW 162019. UO 7 UW 16 2020. UO 11 UW 16
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching. This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17thThree year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching.
I would argue NIL levels the playing field And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then... I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish...
I would argue NIL levels the playing field
...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then...
@MikeDamone is imploding. I half expect to see a "Stalin please ban me" meltdown post later this week.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual.
https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1467921037568450571?s=20stole all this from another bored, zfg.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual. They just offered a guy 8 million a year.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual. They just offered a guy 8 million a year. Mel Tucker says Hi, 8 Mil just doesn't get you what it used to. Phil tried to get cute, and nickle and dime, Crystabal. Wilcox will take 8, so I guess there's that.
https://twitter.com/JamesCrepea/status/1467927780423716865?s=20I dont know if this was already posted here but imagine being upset that your wife's new boyfriend didnt call and get your permission first.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual. They just offered a guy 8 million a year. Mel Tucker says Hi, 8 Mil just doesn't get you what it used to. Phil tried to get cute, and nickle and dime, Crystabal. Wilcox will take 8, so I guess there's that. So he’s not as stupid as Michigan State. Sounds like good news to me.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual. They just offered a guy 8 million a year. Mel Tucker says Hi, 8 Mil just doesn't get you what it used to. Phil tried to get cute, and nickle and dime, Crystabal. Wilcox will take 8, so I guess there's that. So he’s not as stupid as Michigan State. Sounds like good news to me. Yeah maybe? I mean at least MSU got "their" guy and is in a NY6 bowl game. I'm sure they'll begin to question the decision when Pitt beats them, but that's for a different thread. Meanwhile, Oregon just got its clock cleaned by the U and is leaning Wilcox!
Miami has once again shown themselves be the giant dickheads of college football. Not Nebraska classy at all.And they wouldn't have it any other way.
I hate to admit it but fuck, if Oregon doesn't out recruit UW every year their AD and entire coaching staff should be pink-slipped on the spot. This is Nike U, right? It should be landing top 10 classes in its sleep. To bad Phil is old and without his undying support, the seas look a bit choppier than usual. They just offered a guy 8 million a year. Mel Tucker says Hi, 8 Mil just doesn't get you what it used to. Phil tried to get cute, and nickle and dime, Crystabal. Wilcox will take 8, so I guess there's that. So he’s not as stupid as Michigan State. Sounds like good news to me. Yeah maybe? I mean at least MSU got "their" guy and is in a NY6 bowl game. I'm sure they'll begin to question the decision when Pitt beats them, but that's for a different thread. Meanwhile, Oregon just got its clock cleaned by the U and is leaning Wilcox! Are we really going to do “Oregon is dead!!!” again, again?You’d think some of you would have learned by now.
I just want to see Cristobal leave so I can see this guy meltdown:https://twitter.com/districypher/status/1466518018951827458?s=21He has been preaching for months that Cristobal would never leave Oregon. The thing is, Mario is a complete sleazebag, as many football coaches are. He may be among the sleaziest. Duck fans have convinced themselves that he is this righteous, saint-like molder of men who has fallen in love with the local small town football community that has embraced him. When it vomes to the whole "is UW in a better situation with Mario there than who they might get?" conversation, there's a simple answer for me. I want him to leave and I want it to be in the sleaziest way possibly because I want to witness the meltdown.
I just want to see Cristobal leave so I can see this guy meltdown:https://twitter.com/districypher/status/1466518018951827458?s=21He has been preaching for months that Cristobal would never leave Oregon.
I just want to see Cristobal leave so I can see this guy meltdown:https://twitter.com/districypher/status/1466518018951827458?s=21He has been preaching for months that Cristobal would never leave Oregon. The thing is, Mario is a complete sleazebag, as many football coaches are. He may be among the sleaziest. Duck fans have convinced themselves that he is this righteous, saint-like molder of men who has fallen in love with the local small town football community that has embraced him. When it vomes to the whole "is UW in a better situation with Mario there than who they might get?" conversation, there's a simple answer for me. I want him to leave and I want it to be in the sleaziest way possibly because I want to witness the meltdown. This really did all go down as I had foretold
https://twitter.com/JamesCrepea/status/1467927780423716865?s=20I dont know if this was already posted here but imagine being upset that your wife's new boyfriend didnt call and get your permission first. Say you're a cuck without saying you're a cuck.What the fuck planet do you live on, dude? This is college fucking football, and it's a big-money game. A fucking courtesy call?lol
