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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    Announcers have been trying to make him the next Clowney and it just isn't going to work

    Clowney was overhyped and has underwhelmed. It’s actually the perfect comp. both are freak athletes.
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    Clowney was actually a good college football player. I'm not considering NFL
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Clowney is till pretty good. Pretty sure his college career was better
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,380
    I think what happened was that he had 9 sacks as a true frosh and then 10 sacks combined in the 2020 Covid season and this season. The hype went up and the production went down. But his wingspan must be around 6'8" and his ankle could have been affecting his get-off / lower leg strength this year.

    But after 2021, I definitely favor Michigan's Hutchinson.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    Everett Thompson, no?

    I'm impressed with myself for remembering, if I'm indeed correct.

    Thompson was all but invisible as an underclassman. I remember people clamoring for him to play, then being nonplussed when he did. He was pretty solid when he moved inside as an upperclassman. He was OK outside as a contain DE, but wasn't quick enough to be much of an outside rusher.

    Smalls has the coming season to show me something before I give up on him. He's still an underclassman.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    The Boz was smart though

    Boz also I believe won at the college level
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Boz was smart though

    Boz also I believe won at the college level
    Boz was an animal in college, a ticking time bomb with a lot of mileage on his body already coming out of Oklahoma. Yet never forget:

    National champion (1985)
    Heisman Trophy finalist (1986)
    2× Butkus Award (1985, 1986)
    2× Unanimous All-American (1985, 1986)
    3× All-Big Eight (1984–1986)
    That’s a resume that would be drooled upon down South
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Boz was smart though

    Boz also I believe won at the college level
    Boz was an animal in college, a ticking time bomb with a lot of mileage on his body already coming out of Oklahoma. Yet never forget:

    National champion (1985)
    Heisman Trophy finalist (1986)
    2× Butkus Award (1985, 1986)
    2× Unanimous All-American (1985, 1986)
    3× All-Big Eight (1984–1986)
    That’s a resume that would be drooled upon down South
    Selling Broncos fans those anti Boz shirts was hilarious! Dude turned their hate for him into cash in his wallet. Classic
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    The two Pac 12 title games in 2019 and 2020 made his career at Oregon. Oregon doesn’t win those two games without him.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,229 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Boz was smart though

    Boz also I believe won at the college level
    Boz was an animal in college, a ticking time bomb with a lot of mileage on his body already coming out of Oklahoma. Yet never forget:

    National champion (1985)
    Heisman Trophy finalist (1986)
    2× Butkus Award (1985, 1986)
    2× Unanimous All-American (1985, 1986)
    3× All-Big Eight (1984–1986)
    That’s a resume that would be drooled upon down South
    Selling Broncos fans those anti Boz shirts was hilarious! Dude turned their hate for him into cash in his wallet. Classic
    He donated the profits to a Seattle charity, according to his autobiography
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    chuck said:

    Everett Thompson, no?

    I'm impressed with myself for remembering, if I'm indeed correct.

    Thompson was all but invisible as an underclassman. I remember people clamoring for him to play, then being nonplussed when he did. He was pretty solid when he moved inside as an upperclassman. He was OK outside as a contain DE, but wasn't quick enough to be much of an outside rusher.

    Smalls has the coming season to show me something before I give up on him. He's still an underclassman.

    Kavario Middleton
    The weed be letting him know
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    chuck said:

    There's never been a more over-hyped and over-promoted player

    Who are your top 5?
    Hackenburg is up there.
    Race has it right. The rest of you are wrong.

    There’s plenty of metrics to look at as to why he’s so good and has been good.
    I think he's good and hasn't failed relative to the hype. He does seem like a fuck bag to me though for whatever that's worth.
    That's the right take. I'm not sure I'd want to coach him at the college level. In the NFL his fuckbaggery will stand out less and he'll have to be very, very good to get away with it.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,231 Founders Club
    Had as many career sacks as Kikaha did in 2014 alone. Also can’t wait to hear the negative press leading up to the draft about his real size
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611

    Had as many career sacks as Kikaha did in 2014 aloneg. Also can’t wait to hear the negative press leading up to the draft about his real size

    ?
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,231 Founders Club

    Had as many career sacks as Kikaha did in 2014 aloneg. Also can’t wait to hear the negative press leading up to the draft about his real size

    ?

  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
    Interesting, I always thought he looked really thin for an nfl defensive end.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Interesting, I always thought he looked really thin for an nfl defensive end.

    Despite Feld's best efforts, Kayvon just couldn't quite #fillthesleeves
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I think he will have a decent NFL career but will not live up to #1 overall pick if that is where he is taken.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    On the overall grand scheme of things, Thibs did not live up to the hype. But he stepped up in a couple very high profile games that made a huge difference. so in that sense, I'm not disappointed. Oregon was better with him.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    On the overall grand scheme of things, Thibs did not live up to the hype. But he stepped up in a couple very high profile games that made a huge difference. so in that sense, I'm not disappointed. Oregon was better with him.

    He was better than that and I'd say lived up to the hype. It's not just sack numbers. It's how many offensive players are being used, and how much time they are spending thinking about how, to neutralize you. He also wasn't playing with Ojabo on the other side.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    On the overall grand scheme of things, Thibs did not live up to the hype. But he stepped up in a couple very high profile games that made a huge difference. so in that sense, I'm not disappointed. Oregon was better with him.

    He was better than that and I'd say lived up to the hype. It's not just sack numbers. It's how many offensive players are being used, and how much time they are spending thinking about how, to neutralize you. He also wasn't playing with Ojabo on the other side.
    I agree
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,033 Founders Club

    On the overall grand scheme of things, Thibs did not live up to the hype. But he stepped up in a couple very high profile games that made a huge difference. so in that sense, I'm not disappointed. Oregon was better with him.

    He was better than that and I'd say lived up to the hype. It's not just sack numbers. It's how many offensive players are being used, and how much time they are spending thinking about how, to neutralize you. He also wasn't playing with Ojabo on the other side.
    Beth Mowins, is that you? You're right, I remember Terrell Suggs struggled to get sacks because Jimmy Verndon was the other DE. It's college. It's the Pac-12. Make plays or fuck off.