TSIO who stays, who declares and who Portals: Discussion
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*fixedPasadenaHuskyFan said:
Gordon actually might be the most *technically gifted athlete of all recent uw dbsHouhusky said:
I dont think Gordon and McDuffie are as good or as polished as past UW DBs but it wouldn't surprise me if past UW DB success carries them into the 1st-2nd round regardless.dnc said:
Combine will be very big for both of them.AtomicDawg said:
This will be Interesting when the nfl scouts turn on the film to see these lock down corners that had safeties over the top of them every play and very rarely were tested.NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“
Elite combine numbers combined with reputation and UW DB success in the pros will help them a lot.
I would be very surprised if we don't see at least one of them go first round. Mid second is probably the floor for both of them. -
I actually think Kyler has the most physical potential of any of the DBs we're talking about. I follow mocks really tight for some reason and the only one I remember being a consensus first guy was Jones and he actually only fell because of the achilles injury. I think people forget because he's underwhelmed in the NFL, but I thought he was actually the best of these guys as a Husky and that includes Budda.theknowledge said:
I was referring to the random lists or projections where Jones, King, Baker, Murphy and Peters were all at one tim or another mentioned as first round guys. Rapp and Molden were seen as second rounders and slipped to the third. I'm just saying based on reputation and success they were all hailed as one thing and either injuries, combine results, or deeper film study of UWs scheme soured the scouts final grade. Maybe Im wearing purple tinted glasses when thinking back on how they were seen nationally. Very possible.dnc said:
Who got major first round pub? Sid for sure but it's amazing he still went as high as he did. Murphy maybe?theknowledge said:
This is part of the reason why most all Pete era DBs get first round pub and then after film study get taken in the second/third round.AtomicDawg said:
This will be Interesting when the nfl scouts turn on the film to see these lock down corners that had safeties over the top of them every play and very rarely were tested.NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“
I don't remember a long list of guys expected to go in the first round. King maybe had a couple first round mentions but he was the first pick in the second round (same as Murphy), I would say he went higher than expected.
I think Rapp was close to consensus late first but his injury and related slow testing knocked him for sure into the season.
The rest of the Petersen guys would occasionally pop into the back of a first round mock but that's really it.
I thought Molden was one of the more overrated Huskies in a long time for a long time and the kind of guy who if he was on Oregon I would shit on and point out wasn't that good But he was lights out in 2020 and I'm glad to see him doing well in the NFL. -
Jones is starting on the Seahawks now. People forget that
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Fixed, sadlyPasadenaHuskyFan said:Jones is starting on the worst Seahawks team in a decade now thanks to injury. People forget that
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PasadenaHuskyFan said:
In terms of keeping Adams… not that hard to justify. He recruited the best player we have committed in the 2022 class… Bernard. Adams also kept Bernard’s commitment after two of his high school teammates decommitted. The other receiver commit, Denzel Boston isn’t highly ranked but you can’t criticize his size or speed. 2021 was seen as a bad recruiting year for Adams but he still got a four star commit in Tinae, convinced Giles Jackson to portal in (former four star who is a damn good returner) and portaled in Polk who actually might be good when healthy.
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Dawgman.comdnc said:
link?NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“
BTW UW allowed about 30 more running td's than Geogria's defense, and that's with them playing their 2 and 3's more times in Q3/Q4 of their games than not. -
Jones is good. He has always been good when he's been healthy.PasadenaHuskyFan said:Jones is starting on the Seahawks now. People forget that
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He is not a good nfl cb. I don’t even think he’s a starter.l in a decent team. In college he was great.chuck said:
Jones is good. He has always been good when he's been healthy.PasadenaHuskyFan said:Jones is starting on the Seahawks now. People forget that
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Nah he’s playing pretty well… Seattle’s problem is zero offense and a lack of pass rush
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Jones is a meh NFL CB. He wouldn’t be a starter without injuries to starters.
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he’s better than Tre Flowers…TheHB said:Jones is a meh NFL CB. He wouldn’t be a starter without injuries to starters.
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Well they mainly play 2 high shells in the NFL now too. So it's actually the positions they would be in at that level.AtomicDawg said:
This will be Interesting when the nfl scouts turn on the film to see these lock down corners that had safeties over the top of them every play and very rarely were tested.NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“ -
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No. It's because they haven't been elite testers at the combine outside of Kevin King who really had a year of production. Like I said in a previous post almost all NFL teams use 2 high shells at pretty much all times now. It's not been because of our scheme.theknowledge said:
This is part of the reason why most all Pete era DBs get first round pub and then after film study get taken in the second/third round.AtomicDawg said:
This will be Interesting when the nfl scouts turn on the film to see these lock down corners that had safeties over the top of them every play and very rarely were tested.NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“
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Kyler Gordon will be an elite tester
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They actually play situational football in the nfl based off of personnel and down and distance though. It’s fine as a base defense. Good cb’s are left on islands snd defenses do run blitzes way more often in the nfl.backthepack said:
Well they mainly play 2 high shells in the NFL now too. So it's actually the positions they would be in at that level.AtomicDawg said:
This will be Interesting when the nfl scouts turn on the film to see these lock down corners that had safeties over the top of them every play and very rarely were tested.NeGgaPlEaSe said:24) Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
“We have a new entry into our 2022 NFL Draft Big Board, and a new contender at the top of the cornerback class. Washington’s pass defense is the best in the nation this season, allowing just 142.9 yards per game. Furthermore, they’ve allowed 1 less passing touchdown this year than the Georgia defense earning national recognition.
Kyler Gordon is one of the big reasons why. At 6’0″ and 200 pounds, he has decent size at the position. He’s incredibly athletic, possesses impressive ball skills, and his physicality is apparent on every snap. While his teammate earned more recognition coming into the season, Gordon has the upside to enter the draft as a prospect with more upside.“ -
People forget Jones was a beast prior to Achilles Tendon injury…. Wow this discussion again. Had Jones not been injured he would have been an All Pro
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Yep. Joe Tryon with a little more production.PasadenaHuskyFan said:Kyler Gordon will be an elite tester
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Melissa McCarthy is prettier than Rosie O’Donnell.PasadenaHuskyFan said:
he’s better than Tre Flowers…TheHB said:Jones is a meh NFL CB. He wouldn’t be a starter without injuries to starters.
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Do people here really think Giles Jackson is a damn good returner?
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He should be. But he isn’t. But we don’t set up returns at all. It requires like blocking and stuff.CallMeBigErn said:Do people here really think Giles Jackson is a damn good returner?
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He showed flashes of being very good and very shitty, and e erythung in between. Toward the end he was getting better and better.CallMeBigErn said:Do people here really think Giles Jackson is a damn good returner?
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Yes, he had a lot of great returns the last few games. He was a good returner at Michigan. It’s not like he suddenly sucks just because he played under Jimmy for a season.CallMeBigErn said:Do people here really think Giles Jackson is a damn good returner?
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Cook was my “hey wait this guy is good? player for ‘21
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I’d like to see him at corner. Great athleticism and he was a hitter on special teams.CallMeBigErn said:Do people here really think Giles Jackson is a damn good returner?
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A safety that tries to tackle. Imagine that.WilburHooksHands said:Cook was my “hey wait this guy is good? player for ‘21
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A former WR being the best tackling safety says a lot about the DB coachingAtomicDawg said:
A safety that tries to tackle. Imagine that.WilburHooksHands said:Cook was my “hey wait this guy is good? player for ‘21
Pretty incredible that Lake had us all fooled into thinking he was a good coach playing essentially prevent defense all game not giving a shit about run defense -
Just like Shough wasPasadenaHuskyFan said:Is Ty Thompson really the savior at Oregon though? We'll see, and if you are bullish on him I respect that but he hasn't demonstrated anything yet.
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Agreed. Glad he’s coming back. He showed a lot of heart and effort and improved from 2020. Hopefully one more year and his development as a safety keeps improving. He doesn’t hesitate and gives 100%, I’m optimistic his play improves and he played well next year.WilburHooksHands said:Cook was my “hey wait this guy is good? player for ‘21
