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LawDawg1
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1) to here of a coordinator hire by now.
2) to see Deboner in a high level recruit’s living room with said recroot excited that he’s there.
Instead, we are treated to Jon Donovan level silence. Where’s the sizzle?
2) to see Deboner in a high level recruit’s living room with said recroot excited that he’s there.
Instead, we are treated to Jon Donovan level silence. Where’s the sizzle?
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Maybe on Sunday or next week we will know the staff.
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Looks like Monday for staff announcements atm
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it takes a minute
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This thing is hard.PasadenaHuskyFan said:it takes a minute
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Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
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If current form holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
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He's probably shopping for a boat and scoping out the best coffee spots on LW. Give the guy a break. He's been in Fresno; he's been through a lot.
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So a bunch of people ex Fresno guys + Junior Adams (good recruiter, suspect coach) and Donte Williams (great recruiter, suspect coach). Hopefully he brings in some outsider names at dline, running back, and QB.
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The two best days of being a boat owner… 2. Buying your boat and 1. Selling your boatcreepycoug said:He's probably shopping for a boat and scoping out the best coffee spots on LW. Give the guy a break. He's been in Fresno; he's been through a lot.
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Why would you like JD Williams?dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level) -
with DNC on a lot of this except: I heard JD Williams isn't leaving Fresno. I can't see Inge giving up his DC title. curious your source about Malloe. I thought that FSU RB coach was considered a good recruiter and probably coming on board. I don't see how Adams would survive but not Malloe unless we just have significantly better outside options at DL.dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
it'll be very interesting to see who they get as quarterbacks coach. a lot of sources saying grub is weak at that role. -
My impression is he's a solid coach but not much of a recruiter. He's coached on some good teams and obviously some really awful ones here. I don't hold the Ty era against him though. Lake coached here during the Gilby era and he was obviously a great DB coach.AtomicDawg said:
Why would you like JD Williams?dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
I wouldn't want Williams without Donte. With Donte I'm fine with it. -
What I've heard is DeBoer offered Malloe but Malloe said no because he wants to be a DC and is willing to go the small college route to do it. I hope that's wrong, I agree Malloe is the most important coach to keep (at DL).sinceredawg said:
with DNC on a lot of this except: I heard JD Williams isn't leaving Fresno. I can't see Inge giving up his DC title. curious your source about Malloe. I thought that FSU RB coach was considered a good recruiter and probably coming on board. I don't see how Adams would survive but not Malloe unless we just have significantly better outside options at DL.dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
it'll be very interesting to see who they get as quarterbacks coach. a lot of sources saying grub is weak at that role.
Biggest issue with this staff above is there are no Polys on it. Have to find one who is respected if Malloe leaves.
My guess is Adams is surviving because he can recruit. I imagine his receivers will look 300x better in this new offense. -
I thought he was let go by Utah before Fresno but maybe I am wrong. Never really been impressed with him but he is experienced.dnc said:
My impression is he's a solid coach but not much of a recruiter. He's coached on some good teams and obviously some really awful ones here. I don't hold the Ty era against him though. Lake coached here during the Gilby era and he was obviously a great DB coach.AtomicDawg said:
Why would you like JD Williams?dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
I wouldn't want Williams without Donte. With Donte I'm fine with it.
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I have no idea what happened at Utah, seems likely he was let go.AtomicDawg said:
I thought he was let go by Utah before Fresno but maybe I am wrong. Never really been impressed with him but he is experienced.dnc said:
My impression is he's a solid coach but not much of a recruiter. He's coached on some good teams and obviously some really awful ones here. I don't hold the Ty era against him though. Lake coached here during the Gilby era and he was obviously a great DB coach.AtomicDawg said:
Why would you like JD Williams?dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
I wouldn't want Williams without Donte. With Donte I'm fine with it.
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He had success at FresnoAtomicDawg said:
Why would you like JD Williams?dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
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Williams’ secondary ranked as one the best in the nation in 2018. His group totaled 13 of the Bulldogs’ 19 interceptions, which was fifth best for a FBS team, and as a defensive unit Fresno State was tied for the third-most passes defended in the nation with 79, the most by a Bulldog defense since 1999. The team also held opposing quarterbacks to the fifth-lowest pass efficiency in the FBS at 104.09.
Under his guidance, Tank Kelly was named to the All-Mountain West first team. The senior finished third in the nation with 22 passes defended and was tied for a MW-best four interceptions. He was tied with teammate Juju Hughes who, along with fellow Bulldog safety Mike Bell, was selected to the All-MW second team.
During his first year back in Fresno, the Bulldogs ranked as one of the top defensive units in 2017, finishing 10th in the FBS in scoring defense at 17.9 points per game and 15th in total defense with 320.6 yards allowed per game. Williams guided one of the Bulldogs’ youngest groups on the field with his secondary accounting for 11 of the team’s 19 forced turnovers.” -
Malloe had so many years of striking out in recruiting that I don’t mind moving on from him, he’s a good guy though but he struggled to recruit non-poly dline guysdnc said:
What I've heard is DeBoer offered Malloe but Malloe said no because he wants to be a DC and is willing to go the small college route to do it. I hope that's wrong, I agree Malloe is the most important coach to keep (at DL).sinceredawg said:
with DNC on a lot of this except: I heard JD Williams isn't leaving Fresno. I can't see Inge giving up his DC title. curious your source about Malloe. I thought that FSU RB coach was considered a good recruiter and probably coming on board. I don't see how Adams would survive but not Malloe unless we just have significantly better outside options at DL.dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
it'll be very interesting to see who they get as quarterbacks coach. a lot of sources saying grub is weak at that role.
Biggest issue with this staff above is there are no Polys on it. Have to find one who is respected if Malloe leaves.
My guess is Adams is surviving because he can recruit. I imagine his receivers will look 300x better in this new offense. -
Tedford is more likely to be the next FS HC. Steinauer is a dynamite coach, but reportedly hates recruiting. He's worth the liability...best DC FS has had in the modern era.dnc said:
If current form holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
JD Williams has been in Fresno for a long time. If he left it would surprise, but not shock me.
Moore, Grubb, Inge, and all other DeBoer assistants are coming to Seattle if you want them. -
Yep.PasadenaHuskyFan said:
Malloe had so many years of striking out in recruiting that I don’t mind moving on from him, he’s a good guy though but he struggled to recruit non-poly dline guysdnc said:
What I've heard is DeBoer offered Malloe but Malloe said no because he wants to be a DC and is willing to go the small college route to do it. I hope that's wrong, I agree Malloe is the most important coach to keep (at DL).sinceredawg said:
with DNC on a lot of this except: I heard JD Williams isn't leaving Fresno. I can't see Inge giving up his DC title. curious your source about Malloe. I thought that FSU RB coach was considered a good recruiter and probably coming on board. I don't see how Adams would survive but not Malloe unless we just have significantly better outside options at DL.dnc said:
If current for holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
it'll be very interesting to see who they get as quarterbacks coach. a lot of sources saying grub is weak at that role.
Biggest issue with this staff above is there are no Polys on it. Have to find one who is respected if Malloe leaves.
My guess is Adams is surviving because he can recruit. I imagine his receivers will look 300x better in this new offense.
OTOH he was a very good DL coach (should never have been moved off of it) and was really good at recruiting Polys in general, not just at DL. He was instrumental in recruiting Hawaii and Utah.
Also like 1/3 of the roster is Poly and he was the main reason they are here. With him leaving you better have a big time Poly hire to keep those guys feeling respected and on bored. DeBoer being a midwesterner his unfamiliarity with Poly culture is one of my main concerns. I hope he doesn't have to learn the hard way.
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There were plenty of Polynesian players on the Fresno roster, every college football team on the west coast has a lot of Polynesians. I don’t think DeBoer being “unfamiliar” with poly culture will be a big deal.
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Yep agreed on Tedford and Steinauer.FSDogs1 said:
Tedford is more likely to be the next FS HC. Steinauer is a dynamite coach, but reportedly hates recruiting. He's worth the liability...best DC FS has had in the modern era.dnc said:
If current form holds there will be three home runs IMO, possibly four, with five an outside shot if Tedford comes.honeybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
Courtney Morgan (not an assistant coach but big addition as director of recruiting)
Donte Williams CoDC/DBs (won't like it if he's calling plays)
Kirby Moore - TEs
Maaaaaybe Orlondo Steinauer DC (please God)
Others I like
Ryan Grubb OL, probably OC unless Tedford ends up here
Junior Adams WRs (only current UW coach being retained)
William Inge LBs (won't like him if he's DC)
Ron McKeefery S & C
JD Williams Other DB coach
Not sure yet
RB coach (hearing we're after some big names)
QB coach (no clue other than Tedford if he's here)
DL coach (no idea but apparently Malloe is dropping down to DC at a lower level)
JD Williams has been in Fresno for a long time. If he left it would surprise, but not shock me.
Moore, Grubb, Inge, and all other DeBoer assistants are coming to Seattle if you want them.
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I get more of a Slowpitch Softball vibe from Deboner. He’s probably playing in a tournament in Federal Way, Lacey, or Kenthoneybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
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Are Morgan and Donte really coming?
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I would like Malloe to be on staff as DL but not as co-DC. If that's what he wants more power to him.
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Agreebiak1 said:I would like Malloe to be on staff as DL but not as co-DC. If that's what he wants more power to him.
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Morgan sounds like a done deal. Allegedly Donte is as well but I'm less confident until that one's announced because he's such a wild card.Beno4Life said:Are Morgan and Donte really coming?
Allegedly we'll know Monday.
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you don't want to rush purchasing boat, you just don't. You've got to make sure the boat is the "best fit" for commuting to work with fancy coffee in hand.
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Would be strange if he was playing fast pitch softball.CuntWaffle said:
I get more of a Slowpitch Softball vibe from Deboner. He’s probably playing in a tournament in Federal Way, Lacey, or Kenthoneybadger40 said:Is Deboner on a golf course in Fresno? Looking for multiple home run assistant hires to be announced by Sunday/Monday or burn it all down.
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Concerning that we? haven't seen any reports of DeBoer doing in-home visits. Not what I wanted to see.
