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Wtf happened with this guy? Why did our players go from badass to soft with presumably the same or a similar program

Im talking best defense in the nation with jacked dudes to softer than Sark
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  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
    Socha must go. Was amazed but how soft and tubby our linemen looked this year
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    And the OP sounds like a jilted lover
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    Wtf happened with this guy? Why did our players go from badass to soft with presumably the same or a similar program

    Im talking best defense in the nation with jacked dudes to softer than Sark

    Typically the s&c coach is taking input from the staff on how to morph their bodies and want to emphasize. Once Pete left this completely fell off. My guess is Pete put the fear of god into the coaches and players to be in shape. Jimmy was, well whatever. Just a hunch. Race Porter is the only player that got yoked and faster.
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
    I realized socha sucked after the huskies and Petersen lost to a shit Auburn team… that’s when I realized we’d never be physical enough to beat sec teams with Petersen
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    My best guess is that the COVID restrictions and protocols fucked up Socha's system, and he didn't make the right adjustments to keep everyone in shape
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    Rotten head coach, rotten program.

    I'm convinced that the right head coach will get his assistants to perform, period. When they don't it's on him and him alone and he usualky gets one chance to fix it.

    So, while I don't blame the assistant coaches for the way their units performed this year, I want them all gone anyways because I'm kind of tired of recycled names, but I know it's not happening.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    NEsnake12 said:

    My best guess is that the COVID restrictions and protocols fucked up Socha's system, and he didn't make the right adjustments to keep everyone in shape

    If true, FTG. If not true, FTG.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,033 Founders Club

    Wtf happened with this guy? Why did our players go from badass to soft with presumably the same or a similar program

    Im talking best defense in the nation with jacked dudes to softer than Sark

    Typically the s&c coach is taking input from the staff on how to morph their bodies and want to emphasize. Once Pete left this completely fell off. My guess is Pete put the fear of god into the coaches and players to be in shape. Jimmy was, well whatever. Just a hunch. Race Porter is the only player that got yoked and faster.
    Semi related but heard from a former player Sark would be in the weight room eating a bag of chips and yelling at guys for not working hard enough and then Petersen came in and work would work out with them and everything changed
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    Wtf happened with this guy? Why did our players go from badass to soft with presumably the same or a similar program

    Im talking best defense in the nation with jacked dudes to softer than Sark

    Typically the s&c coach is taking input from the staff on how to morph their bodies and want to emphasize. Once Pete left this completely fell off. My guess is Pete put the fear of god into the coaches and players to be in shape. Jimmy was, well whatever. Just a hunch. Race Porter is the only player that got yoked and faster.
    Semi related but heard from a former player Sark would be in the weight room eating a bag of chips and yelling at guys for not working hard enough and then Petersen came in and work would work out with them and everything changed
    It's totally related. It's another illustration of how it's always the head coach.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033
    I remember Socha saying that after the Bama game he needed to completely overhaul his system. Not sure that worked out so well as it feels like even Pete teams were softer after that.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    I remember Socha saying that after the Bama game he needed to completely overhaul his system. Not sure that worked out so well as it feels like even Pete teams were softer after that.

    Actually the roster got way bigger that off season so that was probably what they were referring to. I remember rapp and McIntosh I think put on like 10lbs which was odd at that point in their careers. They were impressed with bama’s stars apparently and their tailback trucking the entire defense down the sidelines.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    I remember Socha saying that after the Bama game he needed to completely overhaul his system. Not sure that worked out so well as it feels like even Pete teams were softer after that.

    They weren't softer. They were just too big and a lot slower and not as quick.
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611

    He’s gone.

    Do you know if Malloe is also gone? I’m on the fence with him…
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033

    I remember Socha saying that after the Bama game he needed to completely overhaul his system. Not sure that worked out so well as it feels like even Pete teams were softer after that.

    They weren't softer. They were just too big and a lot slower and not as quick.
    "Soft" I remember us melting in second halves thereafter which was never a problem before. Not mutually exclusive ideas. Tomato Tomato
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited December 2021
    NEsnake12 said:

    My best guess is that the COVID restrictions and protocols fucked up Socha's system, and he didn't make the right adjustments to keep everyone in shape

    So he failed. Time for him to go join pete
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club

    Buffy Miller thinks he's awesome and so did some former players.

    I wanted him gone but its possible it was a rotten fish head situation


    Strength and conditioning did drop off the face of the earth 🌎

    Buffy Miller still thinks Jimmy Lake was a great coach and we got rid of him too quickly. I'll pass on Buffy's opinions
    Parents of former players read this board
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Buffy Miller thinks he's awesome and so did some former players.

    I wanted him gone but its possible it was a rotten fish head situation


    Strength and conditioning did drop off the face of the earth 🌎

    Buffy Miller still thinks Jimmy Lake was a great coach and we got rid of him too quickly. I'll pass on Buffy's opinions
    We love Buffy, but that is bad take. Jimmy was moron for pissing away a great opportunity to build generational wealth for this family
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941

    Buffy Miller thinks he's awesome and so did some former players.

    I wanted him gone but its possible it was a rotten fish head situation


    Strength and conditioning did drop off the face of the earth 🌎

    Buffy Miller still thinks Jimmy Lake was a great coach and we got rid of him too quickly. I'll pass on Buffy's opinions
    Parents of former players read this board
    It seemed better when this bored was underground.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Buffy Miller thinks he's awesome and so did some former players.

    I wanted him gone but its possible it was a rotten fish head situation


    Strength and conditioning did drop off the face of the earth 🌎

    Buffy Miller still thinks Jimmy Lake was a great coach and we got rid of him too quickly. I'll pass on Buffy's opinions
    Getting opinions from parents and players is always a weird thing to me.

    Regarding Buffy, I’m sure she loves Lake because he helped Jordan get drafted and she probably talked to Lake often during the recruiting process back when he still recruited.

    Getting an opinion from a player is another interesting exercise. Players will say “Coach is the best coach I’ve ever had” and if the player is in college, I would fucking hope a college coach is better than your high school and peewee coaches.
    This. Miller was one of the earlier recruits when Jimmy was just a DB coach, so I am sure he built a great relationship with them. Lake was a lights out DB coach/recruiter and as you eluded too, got Jordan drafted and he was a pretty low level recruit.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Socha could probably be a decent S&C coach again under DeBoer, but the question is whether DeBoer thinks he's a good fit.

    Socha was at BSU when they beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl and had some decent years at UW, but 2019 onward has been bad