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You realize that's likely what the bored will be sayin in a decade.....after doing exactly that for a decade, after basically doing that since James left. Lather rinse repeat.BleachedAnusDawg said:
If DeBoner sucks, fire him and start again in three years
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Campbell hasn't done shit in recruiting, this seems like the weakest argument for hiring him over Deboner. ISU's class this year has a lower avg rating than Worshingtons 2022 class, and we? just fired our coach while they are coming off a NY6 win.
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You need recruiters around Deboer.CuntWaffle said:
This. Seen a lot of posts about how he needs to recruit/hire guys who can recruit. Haven't seen much about COACHING.sonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
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The Campbell obsession is some jilted lover bullshit.
Dude has as many flags as DeBoer. Took a top-10, senior laden team, and went 7-5. I appreciated Teq’s dissertation on why his 5 losses this year weren’t actually bad (reminded me of Hugh giving an “A” grade to Locker’s 3 of 22 performance against Nebraska) - but give me a break. Dude royally flamed out this year.
AND he’s clearly fine riding it out in Ames fucking Iowa. It’s not just Washington he’s turning down. More power to him, but I’d rather have a coach who wants to win national titles and is hungry to move up the ladder.
His hire would have “won the presser,” which would be nice on the heels of Lincoln. But a few weeks later… who cares?
We need a coach who can develop talent and win games. KD has as good a chance to be that as anyone. We’ll see.
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Nope ... replace Oregon with UCLA and that is how it was in the 80ssonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
It's not about beating them in recruiting, it's about making sure that you recruit well enough that your internal development and game day coaching can close the gap.
If you don't recruit well enough to keep the gap close enough, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have -
USC will have top five classes under Riley, Oregon will have top ten classes under Mario. For Washington under Kalen, you hope for top 25 classes and that he can make up the difference through scheme and development.Tequilla said:
Nope ... replace Oregon with UCLA and that is how it was in the 80ssonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
It's not about beating them in recruiting, it's about making sure that you recruit well enough that your internal development and game day coaching can close the gap.
If you don't recruit well enough to keep the gap close enough, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have -
Tequila, may I suggest you start reading the posts before responding?Tequilla said:
Nope ... replace Oregon with UCLA and that is how it was in the 80ssonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
It's not about beating them in recruiting, it's about making sure that you recruit well enough that your internal development and game day coaching can close the gap.
If you don't recruit well enough to keep the gap close enough, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have -
Yepsonics1993 said:
USC will have top five classes under Riley, Oregon will have top ten classes under Mario. For Washington under Kalen, you hope for top 25 classes and that he can make up the difference through scheme and development.Tequilla said:
Nope ... replace Oregon with UCLA and that is how it was in the 80ssonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
It's not about beating them in recruiting, it's about making sure that you recruit well enough that your internal development and game day coaching can close the gap.
If you don't recruit well enough to keep the gap close enough, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have
Ideally you get into that 15-20 range with Pete ...
But I don't think you can expect DeBoer to walk in and recruit to that level Day 1 ... get success the first couple of years on the field and you might be able to get the uptick to those levels when you combine with some of the off field NIL stuff with Montlake Futures gaining traction and visibility
The concern is that recruiting falls off to the point where you're not able to make that gap up ...
We'll see ... the staff hires will tell us a lot -
Embarrassing take. I understand not having the same classes as usc but now we've given up on recruiting at the university of eugenes level? Wow.sonics1993 said:
USC will have top five classes under Riley, Oregon will have top ten classes under Mario. For Washington under Kalen, you hope for top 25 classes and that he can make up the difference through scheme and development.Tequilla said:
Nope ... replace Oregon with UCLA and that is how it was in the 80ssonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
It's not about beating them in recruiting, it's about making sure that you recruit well enough that your internal development and game day coaching can close the gap.
If you don't recruit well enough to keep the gap close enough, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have -
Those are the exact words people say before DOOMEDsonics1993 said:Washington isn't going to compete with Oregon and USC when it comes to recruiting, so they need a coach that can develop and out scheme people because they will be at a talent disadvantage. Kalen looks like a guy that can do that, which is why is the hire has a chance to work. Have to give the guy a chance and hope for the best.
