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In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the seasonHuskyJW said: -
Incredible shit talk. Well done.
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we? would have done much better if we? just played Morris and he threw all his passes out of bounds. Just run the damn ball!
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It’s not like our savior Ty Thompson exactly tore it up during his snaps this year. His tape against CU would be great material for every QB coach to show their QB’s what not to do in a game. I’m all for kicking these leg jumpers while they’re down, but our ‘next big thing’ at QB couldn’t beat out the only QB worse the Dylan Morris.
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Theres alot of potential there. He played poorly over all but at least he threw a few nice passes that Morris can't throw. I still hold out hope
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This doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. I'm trying to withhold judgment until he gets a year under competent coaching. But from what we've seen so far, he doesn't have a commanding presence on the field, he has a nice arm on the long balls, he locks onto receivers, and his lack of touch under pressure is concerning.Canadawg said:Theres alot of potential there. He played poorly over all but at least he threw a few nice passes that Morris can't throw. I still hold out hope
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He was also making some very poor choices out there. Sure, not many reps this year, but it’s not exactly his first year of football. Has he regressed under this staff?DerekJohnson said:
This doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. I'm trying to withhold judgment until he gets a year under competent coaching. But from what we've seen so far, he doesn't have a commanding presence on the field, he has a nice arm on the long balls, he locks onto receivers, and his lack of touch under pressure is concerning.Canadawg said:Theres alot of potential there. He played poorly over all but at least he threw a few nice passes that Morris can't throw. I still hold out hope
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I haven’t watched him enough to really judge, but if he was really good he would be playing. Guys develop at different rates but yeah, almost every fan base pumps up the young back up QB and most of them end up sucking.TaggartsUHaulDriver said:It’s not like our savior Ty Thompson exactly tore it up during his snaps this year. His tape against CU would be great material for every QB coach to show their QB’s what not to do in a game. I’m all for kicking these leg jumpers while they’re down, but our ‘next big thing’ at QB couldn’t beat out the only QB worse the Dylan Morris.
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Better yet just take a knee on every down, run the clock, and punt. Closer game for sure.AOG said:we? would have done much better if we? just played Morris and he threw all his passes out of bounds. Just run the damn ball!
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Everyone regressed under this staffTXDawg said:
He was also making some very poor choices out there. Sure, not many reps this year, but it’s not exactly his first year of football. Has he regressed under this staff?DerekJohnson said:
This doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. I'm trying to withhold judgment until he gets a year under competent coaching. But from what we've seen so far, he doesn't have a commanding presence on the field, he has a nice arm on the long balls, he locks onto receivers, and his lack of touch under pressure is concerning.Canadawg said:Theres alot of potential there. He played poorly over all but at least he threw a few nice passes that Morris can't throw. I still hold out hope
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The receivers didn’t help much. He has a good sense of pressure. He stepped up into the pocket a few times.
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greenblood said:
In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the seasonHuskyJW said:
You can shut your fucking pie hole for startersgreenblood said:
In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the seasonHuskyJW said: -
I thought Huard looked fine when they finally opened up the offense and stopped running the ball on 1st and 2nd down or throwing stupid bubble screens.
If his receivers could have helped him out even a little bit he finishes the game likely with 2 TD's, 2 picks a couple hundred yards and it doesn't look as bad. But holy shit Odunze, McMillan and Culp really left the poor fucker out to dry. Not to mention the lovely blocking effort by Culp and Pleasant on a double team block that caused one of the picks.
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UW receiving Is criminally horrific.BroadcastingDawg said:I thought Huard looked fine when they finally opened up the offense and stopped running the ball on 1st and 2nd down or throwing stupid bubble screens.
If his receivers could have helped him out even a little bit he finishes the game likely with 2 TD's, 2 picks a couple hundred yards and it doesn't look as bad. But holy shit Odunze, McMillan and Culp really left the poor fucker out to dry. Not to mention the lovely blocking effort by Culp and Pleasant on a double team block that caused one of the picks. -
cristoballs looks better than any bum coach ive seen at uw though, tbfHuskyJW said: -
Huard sucks.
Right now Morris is better than Huard.
One is a True Freshman, one is a RS Freshman.
Morris could be a fine college QB with an average OL and some coaching.
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Huard can actually connect on a throw 15 yards down field. The whole team + coaching staff that he was surrounded with gave him as little help as possible, and he unsurprisingly stunk up the joint. He now sucks until proven otherwise.Houhusky said:Huard sucks.
Right now Morris is better than Huard.
One is a True Freshman, one is a RS Freshman.
Morris could be a fine college QB with an average OL and some coaching.
I haven’t seen enough from Huard to say anything positive.
But Morris is fucking done. He has a large body of work that demonstrates how hopeless he is, and there's no way in hell he should ever suit up again. -
Huard already knows how to escape defenders in his face better than Morris.Houhusky said:Huard sucks.
Right now Morris is better than Huard.
One is a True Freshman, one is a RS Freshman.
Morris could be a fine college QB with an average OL and some coaching.
I haven’t seen enough from Huard to say anything positive.
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He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.
Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...
Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?
It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.
I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off? -
Tldr but people always assume players are going to be exactly who they are as true freshman. There's a reason these guys practice and end up playing more when they're older. My opinion is that he looked pretty bad but has potential1to392831weretaken said:He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.
Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...
Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?
It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.
I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off? -
UW offense is easy for other defenses to prepare for, so much of what was seen this year has to have an asterisk next to it when evaluating UW talent.
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Props to Bob knowing he’s getting shit canned to let Huard play the whole game. I guess LIPO after being under the guidance of offensive juggernaut JonDon, and maybe two weeks of meaning snaps in practice.
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Sam needs to be in a spread offense hitting short passes in rhythm.
He’s not a generational talent but plenty good enough to be a winning p12 qb.
He has had the exact opposite of good college coaching up to this point.
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None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.1to392831weretaken said:He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.
Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...
Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?
It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.
I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off?
But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it. -
He might suck but im not going to judge based on 1 game with a lifeless corpse of a team. He isn’t going to be a “savior” and 4 picks is concerning but I still want him out there instead of Morris.
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Exactly.CuntWaffle said:He might suck but im not going to judge based on 1 game with a lifeless corpse of a team. He isn’t going to be a “savior” and 4 picks is concerning but I still want him out there instead of Morris.
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HurtfulHuskyJW said:greenblood said:
In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the seasonHuskyJW said:
You can shut your fucking pie hole for startersgreenblood said:
In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the seasonHuskyJW said: -
Thanks Teq!1to392831weretaken said:He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.
Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...
Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?
It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.
I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off? -
Huard very well could suck.
Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.
