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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,884

    He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.

    Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
    Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
    Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
    Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
    Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
    The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
    Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
    Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
    WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...

    Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?

    It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.

    I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off?

    Tldr but people always assume players are going to be exactly who they are as true freshman. There's a reason these guys practice and end up playing more when they're older. My opinion is that he looked pretty bad but has potential
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,703
    UW offense is easy for other defenses to prepare for, so much of what was seen this year has to have an asterisk next to it when evaluating UW talent.
  • coach_pete_JPG
    coach_pete_JPG Member Posts: 1,218
    Props to Bob knowing he’s getting shit canned to let Huard play the whole game. I guess LIPO after being under the guidance of offensive juggernaut JonDon, and maybe two weeks of meaning snaps in practice.

    None of them cared to be there last night so fitting end to Jimmy’s legacy.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    Sam needs to be in a spread offense hitting short passes in rhythm.

    He’s not a generational talent but plenty good enough to be a winning p12 qb.

    He has had the exact opposite of good college coaching up to this point.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.

    Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
    Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
    Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
    Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
    Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
    The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
    Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
    Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
    WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...

    Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?

    It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.

    I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off?

    None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.

    But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273

    He might suck but im not going to judge based on 1 game with a lifeless corpse of a team. He isn’t going to be a “savior” and 4 picks is concerning but I still want him out there instead of Morris.

    Exactly.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    That is all

    Just like Mario

    Pussy talks after the fact
    In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the season

    HuskyJW said:

    That is all

    Just like Mario

    Pussy talks after the fact
    In all honesty, what else do we have to go on? It’s not like he was getting reps during the season
    You can shut your fucking pie hole for starters
    Hurtful
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,690 Founders Club

    He threw something like three really nice passes in the entire game. Only one that wasn't short and routine. The best was the incomplete fade to the end zone in the 4th quarter. That was a perfect throw, nice route by the receiver, just a great play by the DB. Thing is, Morris tends to throw one or two pretty balls per game, too.

    Let's compare the rest of the body of work:
    Wildly missing a routine 10 yard out to a wide open receiver in two-minute offense late.
    Scrambling right and throwing exactly in between two wide open receivers on the sideline, the only place you could throw such that neither receiver had a prayer at catching it.
    Laser to Odunze's face on a crossing route that he drops. (Absolutely should have been caught anyway, but that ball needs to be on the forward shoulder to create the intended YAC, and that's a 95% throw for a good QB to be able to do. This is exactly like the "slight inaccuracy" that I was dogging Morris for last season while everyone else was blowing him.)
    Both the completed and incompleted deep balls to Polk were wildly underthrown jump balls.
    The completed deep ball to Odunze was underthrown into coverage. Lucky the DB slipped.
    Odunze's circus catch was a highlight for Odunze and a lowlight for Huard.
    Culp doing Culp things was 99% Culp's fault, but that was a wobbly ball.
    WSU #35 was 2 for 2 when targeted...

    Criticism of Morris is inaccuracy, lack of touch, balls batted down, and turnovers. I saw all of those things except batted balls from Huard. In the Elite-11 competition, Morris was specifically praised for his big arm and accuracy downfield. Two years in this program, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. We've all seen Huard's film--pass after pass of bombs that would land in a garbage can (#godeeporgohome), yet he's suddenly off by five yards on all of his deep throws when he suits up for Washington?

    It's clear that none of the QBs on the roster have a feel for where the receivers are actually going to be on a given play against a given defensive look. There is no timing, no muscle memory. There are also no easy throws (deLaura's passes went to receivers who were open by an average for four yards) due to ineffective scheme. Watching this game (I was visiting in the in-laws and drunk, so what else was I going to do?) opened my eyes to a certain extent. It's challenged my assumption that Morris is terrible. Now, the assumption has to be either all of the UW quarterbacks are terrible or they have multiple serviceable quarterbacks that are broken by the coaching/system, as Morris and Huard seem to have the same problems.

    I don't know what Morris' dad was popping off with last night, but I don't blame him for spiking the football a bit. I also no longer want to see Morris transfer. He may still be a bust, but he also might thrive under a real coach, real training program, real receivers with effort and hands not made of stone. After last night, seems he'd have just as good of odds as Huard, so why run guysm off?

    Thanks Teq!
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    Huard very well could suck.
    Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.