Huard looks great
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Huard should take this game as a kick in the ass of realization that he's, at this point, a crappy college QB. The good news is he's hot plenty of time to improve. Hopefully he works his ass off over the offseason and lives up to his talent.
He is a rich, private school kid who probably hasn't faced much adversity in his life. That's not his fault, it's just a fact. Sometimes it's tough for kids from that background to self-reflect. We'll see how he handles this. -
Huard is a few months removed from high school and had terrible coaching. I’m willing to wait a little longer to judge. But I sure like these athletic qbs that can run occasionally too.
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#myLancersbananasnblondes said:Huard should take this game as a kick in the ass of realization that he's, at this point, a crappy college QB. The good news is he's hot plenty of time to improve. Hopefully he works his ass off over the offseason and lives up to his talent.
He is a rich, private school kid who probably hasn't faced much adversity in his life. That's not his fault, it's just a fact. Sometimes it's tough for kids from that background to self-reflect. We'll see how he handles this.
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Golden rule of HH, he suck until he doesn’t
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The phrase your looking for is dual threat QB. College Football flipped to that business model for a decade, except for a certain school in the Pac-12 North....TrumpsWall said:Huard is a few months removed from high school and had terrible coaching. I’m willing to wait a little longer to judge. But I sure like these athletic qbs that can run occasionally too.
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Huard hit a white jersey right between the 3 and the 5 twice! I'm just saying it may be a systemic issue.AtomicDawg said:Huard very well could suck.
Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.
Before Friday, I would completely agree with you. Watching Morris the last two seasons has been like having a rusty nail jammed up my peehole. ATBS, there's not much of a precedent for a QB being that bad in his debut and then getting good. At UW's level, the only way they come close to reaching the kind of expectations you see around here is to have one of the best quarterbacks in the country. "At least throw fewer than five interceptions" doesn't cut it. My hypothesis is that, with no change in coaching staff, we'd watch Huard for 10 games and hate him even more than Morris because the expectations were higher. Put another way, that was WAY worse than Browning's true freshman debut, so...GreenRiverGatorz said:None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.
But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it.
All I'm getting at is that the only difference between Morris and Huard at this point is sample size. So much of playing quarterback successfully is mechanics: Successful plays are designed with routes that are stacked such that one of several options will pop open at a specific point in the quarterback's drop or layered such that primary, secondary, tertiary options open up at specific, repeatable points in the drop. You practice these concepts over and over and over again until the quarterback can fit the ball to every receiver he needs to with his eyes closed. Every quarterback who has touched a football for this team in the last season and change has looked so poorly and so rarely has had a really open look that I get the impression none of them have any feel for where their receivers are going to be at a given time in any play. I think we'd hate Bryce Young if he played here, and that's the problem.
I mean, it's really the only hope, right? All I'm saying is that either the system is so broken that it's making all of the quarterbacks look like shit or we have absofuckinglutely nothing and better hit the transfer portal and pray to @SpiritHorse that there's a savior in there. I don't buy the small/large sample size argument; that was bad Friday. Either it's a systemic problem or there is no hope on the roster.
You wanna take the gloves off, Nacho? I earned my MBA on the streets!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Teq!
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This is why teams like the dual threat. Easier to have a shitty system/coaching if the kid can can create and ad hoc his way to wins.1to392831weretaken said:
Huard hit a white jersey right between the 3 and the 5 twice! I'm just saying it may be a systemic issue.AtomicDawg said:Huard very well could suck.
Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.
Before Friday, I would completely agree with you. Watching Morris the last two seasons has been like having a rusty nail jammed up my peehole. ATBS, there's not much of a precedent for a QB being that bad in his debut and then getting good. At UW's level, the only way they come close to reaching the kind of expectations you see around here is to have one of the best quarterbacks in the country. "At least throw fewer than five interceptions" doesn't cut it. My hypothesis is that, with no change in coaching staff, we'd watch Huard for 10 games and hate him even more than Morris because the expectations were higher. Put another way, that was WAY worse than Browning's true freshman debut, so...GreenRiverGatorz said:None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.
But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it.
All I'm getting at is that the only difference between Morris and Huard at this point is sample size. So much of playing quarterback successfully is mechanics: Successful plays are designed with routes that are stacked such that one of several options will pop open at a specific point in the quarterback's drop or layered such that primary, secondary, tertiary options open up at specific, repeatable points in the drop. You practice these concepts over and over and over again until the quarterback can fit the ball to every receiver he needs to with his eyes closed. Every quarterback who has touched a football for this team in the last season and change has looked so poorly and so rarely has had a really open look that I get the impression none of them have any feel for where their receivers are going to be at a given time in any play. I think we'd hate Bryce Young if he played here, and that's the problem.
I mean, it's really the only hope, right? All I'm saying is that either the system is so broken that it's making all of the quarterbacks look like shit or we have absofuckinglutely nothing and better hit the transfer portal and pray to @SpiritHorse that there's a savior in there. I don't buy the small/large sample size argument; that was bad Friday. Either it's a systemic problem or there is no hope on the roster.
You wanna take the gloves off, Nacho? I earned my MBA on the streets!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Teq!
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I watched the Civil War highlights on YouTube last night, and I get the distinct impression that Meat has thrown his hands up, said, "Fuck it!" and is willing to run, essentially, the single wing. They've overshot "dual threat" and landed back on single threat with the single threat being legs.creepycoug said:
This is why teams like the dual threat. Easier to have a shitty system/coaching if the kid can can create and ad hoc his way to wins.1to392831weretaken said:
Huard hit a white jersey right between the 3 and the 5 twice! I'm just saying it may be a systemic issue.AtomicDawg said:Huard very well could suck.
Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.
Before Friday, I would completely agree with you. Watching Morris the last two seasons has been like having a rusty nail jammed up my peehole. ATBS, there's not much of a precedent for a QB being that bad in his debut and then getting good. At UW's level, the only way they come close to reaching the kind of expectations you see around here is to have one of the best quarterbacks in the country. "At least throw fewer than five interceptions" doesn't cut it. My hypothesis is that, with no change in coaching staff, we'd watch Huard for 10 games and hate him even more than Morris because the expectations were higher. Put another way, that was WAY worse than Browning's true freshman debut, so...GreenRiverGatorz said:None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.
But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it.
All I'm getting at is that the only difference between Morris and Huard at this point is sample size. So much of playing quarterback successfully is mechanics: Successful plays are designed with routes that are stacked such that one of several options will pop open at a specific point in the quarterback's drop or layered such that primary, secondary, tertiary options open up at specific, repeatable points in the drop. You practice these concepts over and over and over again until the quarterback can fit the ball to every receiver he needs to with his eyes closed. Every quarterback who has touched a football for this team in the last season and change has looked so poorly and so rarely has had a really open look that I get the impression none of them have any feel for where their receivers are going to be at a given time in any play. I think we'd hate Bryce Young if he played here, and that's the problem.
I mean, it's really the only hope, right? All I'm saying is that either the system is so broken that it's making all of the quarterbacks look like shit or we have absofuckinglutely nothing and better hit the transfer portal and pray to @SpiritHorse that there's a savior in there. I don't buy the small/large sample size argument; that was bad Friday. Either it's a systemic problem or there is no hope on the roster.
You wanna take the gloves off, Nacho? I earned my MBA on the streets!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Teq!
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This was darnold at usc basically. Scramble to throw was their best play.creepycoug said:
This is why teams like the dual threat. Easier to have a shitty system/coaching if the kid can can create and ad hoc his way to wins.1to392831weretaken said:
Huard hit a white jersey right between the 3 and the 5 twice! I'm just saying it may be a systemic issue.AtomicDawg said:Huard very well could suck.
Morris does suck. I can’t take another year of him throwing the ball Into the chest of pass rushers. Dude has no touch.
Before Friday, I would completely agree with you. Watching Morris the last two seasons has been like having a rusty nail jammed up my peehole. ATBS, there's not much of a precedent for a QB being that bad in his debut and then getting good. At UW's level, the only way they come close to reaching the kind of expectations you see around here is to have one of the best quarterbacks in the country. "At least throw fewer than five interceptions" doesn't cut it. My hypothesis is that, with no change in coaching staff, we'd watch Huard for 10 games and hate him even more than Morris because the expectations were higher. Put another way, that was WAY worse than Browning's true freshman debut, so...GreenRiverGatorz said:None of your Huard observations are inaccurate. We've now seen one awful game from him. He's 0-1.
But we've seen 10+ shit fests from Morris. That's a big fucking difference. They may both suck, I can't say for sure. But I can say for sure that Morris is beyond helping, and no new coaching staff is going to save him. I'm not sure how you could even be close to considering giving him more chances. Let him transfer to a G5 and be done with it.
All I'm getting at is that the only difference between Morris and Huard at this point is sample size. So much of playing quarterback successfully is mechanics: Successful plays are designed with routes that are stacked such that one of several options will pop open at a specific point in the quarterback's drop or layered such that primary, secondary, tertiary options open up at specific, repeatable points in the drop. You practice these concepts over and over and over again until the quarterback can fit the ball to every receiver he needs to with his eyes closed. Every quarterback who has touched a football for this team in the last season and change has looked so poorly and so rarely has had a really open look that I get the impression none of them have any feel for where their receivers are going to be at a given time in any play. I think we'd hate Bryce Young if he played here, and that's the problem.
I mean, it's really the only hope, right? All I'm saying is that either the system is so broken that it's making all of the quarterbacks look like shit or we have absofuckinglutely nothing and better hit the transfer portal and pray to @SpiritHorse that there's a savior in there. I don't buy the small/large sample size argument; that was bad Friday. Either it's a systemic problem or there is no hope on the roster.
You wanna take the gloves off, Nacho? I earned my MBA on the streets!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Teq!
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I don’t think Huard will be coddled and led to believe he’s a superstar. Smalls handlers and family did that with him and unless he does a 180, he has no chance.bananasnblondes said:Huard should take this game as a kick in the ass of realization that he's, at this point, a crappy college QB. The good news is he's hot plenty of time to improve. Hopefully he works his ass off over the offseason and lives up to his talent.
He is a rich, private school kid who probably hasn't faced much adversity in his life. That's not his fault, it's just a fact. Sometimes it's tough for kids from that background to self-reflect. We'll see how he handles this.
Huard’s dad and family will let him know he has to get better and I’m sure he knows as well. Do not blame it on the shitty staff, the supporting cast, etc. Work hard and get better.
