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  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    edited November 2021
    dnc said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    Why are these huge red flags? Tons of coaches are successful at their first P5 HC jobs. Guys who dominate their levels tend to succeed as they move up.

    He's not my number one guy but I don't see any reason to be more worried about his ability to recruit than Campbell's, for instance.

    H'es a winner and has won big. Those guys usually figure out how to recruit.
    Winner at low level football. Completely different than what it takes at a Power five conference. At the lower level, it's all about coaching; in Power five, it's all about recruiting something he has no idea about.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,807 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
    I understand that and am sure you're right. I'm of the opinion, though, that people who excel tend to excel at every level (like what DNC just posted). The same brains and drive that lead to 67-3 translate to the next level. That's the theory.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Any chance Tedford joins his staff?
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,843

    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
    He was the offensive coordinator for Indiana in 2019 and vastly improved their offense. Then it fell off a cliff when he left.

  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,917
    Sounds like you wouldn’t want to read the inbox of a P5 head coach. You just wouldn’t.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    digits said:

    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
    He was the offensive coordinator for Indiana in 2019 and vastly improved their offense. Then it fell off a cliff when he left.

    Indiana's recruiting is terrible. I will reserve judgment until I see who he hires for his staff, but I really hope he doesn't make the massive error of bringing in most of his Fresno Staff with him.

    digits said:

    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
    He was the offensive coordinator for Indiana in 2019 and vastly improved their offense. Then it fell off a cliff when he left.

    Indiana's recruiting is terrible. I will reserve judgment until I see who he hires for his staff, but I really hope he doesn't make the massive error of bringing in most of his Fresno Staff with him.
    After the Jimmy disaster I gotta think Jen won't give another first time P5 coach free rein on staff decisions.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    He’s not going to recruit. Nasty hire.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    It seems like I'm the only one not on the Kalen train, but it looks like he will be our next head coach. The lack of experience recruiting is a huge red flag, along with never coaching at a significant P5 job.

    I'm surprised at how much some of you value fairly uneven or middling results at a power five school.
    I'm not talking about head coaching experience at a power five; I am talking about being a coordinator or position coach. You won't be prepared until you know the BS you have to put up with and the time and energy needed to recruit at a high level.
    I understand that and am sure you're right. I'm of the opinion, though, that people who excel tend to excel at every level (like what DNC just posted). The same brains and drive that lead to 67-3 translate to the next level. That's the theory.
    There’s a big fucking difference in recruiting.