Big if true
Former President Donald Trump is leading in states he lost to President Joe Biden in 2020, according to a poll obtained by Politico.
Politico states that of likely voters in 2024, "the former president led Biden in Arizona by 8 percentage points, Georgia by 3 points, Michigan by 12 points, Pennsylvania by 6 points and Wisconsin by 10 points." The poll mentions that 600 likely voters were surveyed in each state.
The poll highlights that if Trump were to run again, the 73 electoral votes from those states would put him back in the White House, which would make him only the second president in history to regain his position after losing an election.
Narrator: probably the real vote totals from 2020
Breitbart's John Nolte, who commented on the poll, says, "one thing Trump should look at, and look at very closely, is how he is doing so much better on the issues that matter to voters than he is in winning their support. If you're up double digits over your opponent on the economy in, say, Georgia, but only ahead by three points, you have to ask yourself why."
Nolte adds, "and this is where Trump's weaknesses come to the fore, his sometimes off-putting personality. Through much of his presidency, he was, without question, victim to a corrupt media funded with billions and billions of corporate dollars used to manufacture lies, turmoil, and tension. But all too often, he contributed to this, made it worse, and wore out his welcome with a public exhausted by the unceasing drama and un-presidential ugliness."
Nolte highlights that Trump's success is mainly dependent on his self-analysis and whether he decides to put forth his best characteristics which would lead him to the presidency or risk letting the "petty, self-involved" parts himself lose it.
What ever. If the voters prefer the shit show we have now to Trump being mean then let them eat tofu and ride their bike to work to stay warm in the winter. The analysis isn't wrong its just meaningless. Trump is who he is. Biden is who he is.
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Through much of his presidency, he was, without question, victim to a corrupt media funded with billions and billions of corporate dollars used to manufacture lies, turmoil, and tension. But all too often, he contributed to this, made it worse, and wore out his welcome with a public exhausted by the unceasing drama and un-presidential ugliness."
Was it the way he was dressed? He was begging for it
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But how does he poll against whoever is in charge in a couple years. A lot can happen in a couple years. I'd much rather see Desantis on the ticket, but that's me.
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A rematch of Trump v Biden might end America. This cannot happen.
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DeathSantis is promising but another Florida governor thought it would be handed to him in 2016
And Ron hasn't faced the full force of the smear machine aligned against him. He's going to have to earn it
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Yeah but 200K more mail in ballots received than were sent out in PA says Trump loses again.
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The democrats are alienating huge swathes of the population, but still clinging to the belief that the basket of deplorables just needs some more CRT and shit. I agree that no politician needs to be nice, AKA Mitt Romney, but any functional person could beat Biden if that piece of shit decides to run in 2024. All you would need to do is point to his record. Biden is worse than Trump. What we need in 2024 is a fresh start. No more shart.RaceBannon said:DeathSantis is promising but another Florida governor thought it would be handed to him in 2016
And Ron hasn't faced the full force of the smear machine aligned against him. He's going to have to earn it
If you are looking for a nice and popular GOP candidate you might as well vote for Kamala. -
So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP
Time to step up and be heard
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Literally no one has a shot past Trump and Ron. Gonna be some fun rhino candidates to follow along the way and watch get slaughtered.RaceBannon said:So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP
Time to step up and be heard
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Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition
It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him
I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question
As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise -
Cage match to the death
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That Canadian born Cuban guy will try….what’s his name? Raphael?…..he’ll get cucked by Trump again and then slither away.RaceBannon said:So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP
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They will end up coordinating. Not saying on the same ticket don't twist. But the numbers will tell them who should runhardhat said:Cage match to the death
I know it goes against everything we know but I could see Trump being the king maker and letting Ron run and supporting him. Desantis is going to be painted as Trump anyway. And he can't disavow him
Its why the left needs to keep the narrative alive. January 6 man
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This is likely true.Bob_C said:
Literally no one has a shot past Trump and Ron. Gonna be some fun rhino candidates to follow along the way and watch get slaughtered.RaceBannon said:So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP
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Georgia by only 3 points? WTF happened to Georgia? Looks like they have a bunch of converted eunuchs
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Biden has been horrific in every way and not one lib in the tug would change their vote if given a Mulligan.
The narrative remains the same.
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I’m sure it will be used against him, should we care that it does? If he can’t win in Florida in 2022, then he can’t win nationally in 2024. Florida fucking matters nationally, it’s direct day-to-day opposition to everything the fascists stand for. Abbott isn’t strong enough to be the lead dog Republican governor.RaceBannon said:Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition
It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him
I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question
As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise
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No. I don't careBob_C said:
I’m sure it will be used against him, should we care that it does? If he can’t win in Florida in 2022, then he can’t win nationally in 2024. Florida fucking matters nationally, it’s direct day-to-day opposition to everything the fascists stand for. Abbott isn’t strong enough to be the lead dog Republican governor.RaceBannon said:Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition
It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him
I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question
As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise
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I like Ron a lot but the machine in DC will do exactly the same as they did to Trump. Being nicer or less in the face isn't going to keep the hounds at bay that matter. The elites that are all in on a one party power system. DIMS.
Trump is like the prize fighter that traded punch for punch and in the end lost. But I'm hoping he learned and is still learning how to jab where it's necessary. I think he'd come in and when the dust settles after 6 months of an ass kicking clean out of the commies is complete, then it's onto the business of restoring this country. He has to know where to start, I think he does. -
More like the boxer who lost on the three judge card by 3 to 2.46XiJCAB said:I like Ron a lot but the machine in DC will do exactly the same as they did to Trump. Being nicer or less in the face isn't going to keep the hounds at bay that matter. The elites that are all in on a one party power system. DIMS.
Trump is like the prize fighter that traded punch for punch and in the end lost. But I'm hoping he learned and is still learning how to jab where it's necessary. I think he'd come in and when the dust settles after 6 months of an ass kicking clean out of the commies is complete, then it's onto the business of restoring this country. He has to know where to start, I think he does. -
That line in the Untouchables where Connery asks Costner, if you open the can of these worms you must be prepared to go all the way. They're not going to give up the fight until one of you is dead. That guy is clearly Trump.
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It's not about being nicer than Trump. It's being more disciplined than Trump, and hiring better people.
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The hiring pool of GOP functionaries is polluted beyond savingGrundleStiltzkin said:It's not about being nicer than Trump. It's being more disciplined than Trump, and hiring better people.
And outsiders get the message with every indictment
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Yep, Trump is a figher I'll give him that but you nailed the problems he created that didn't help his Presidency.GrundleStiltzkin said:It's not about being nicer than Trump. It's being more disciplined than Trump, and hiring better people.
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That's where my jab comment was aimed. He can be as mean and nasty as hell, but it can't always be with a haymaker. A surgeon doesn't use a butcher knife for a reason.
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There will be no difference in what gets done by the Feds no matter who gets elected. Does anyone think the 3.5 trillion dollar stuff will be undone? nope -
There will more debt added and pork added to every bill to cover for what the Dems have done for the past 4 years (looking back in 2024) by padding their favorites. Deathsantis and Drumpf when elected will fail in any attempt to improve this mess, andif Biden gets re-electedwhen the mail-in election is counted, we are still screwed just like today.
The best thing that could happen in 2024 is for the vote be tied 2-2, the candidates and their wives are the only ones that vote. I don't think voting works anymore - other than being able to state I did or did not vote for that
I think I have had it as far as politics go - I wish they would all just go away -
I get this but there seems to be a huge difference to meLebamDawg said:There will be no difference in what gets done by the Feds no matter who gets elected. Does anyone think the 3.5 trillion dollar stuff will be undone? nope -
There will more debt added and pork added to every bill to cover for what the Dems have done for the past 4 years (looking back in 2024) by padding their favorites. Deathsantis and Drumpf when elected will fail in any attempt to improve this mess, andif Biden gets re-electedwhen the mail-in election is counted, we are still screwed just like today.
The best thing that could happen in 2024 is for the vote be tied 2-2, the candidates and their wives are the only ones that vote. I don't think voting works anymore - other than being able to state I did or did not vote for that
I think I have had it as far as politics go - I wish they would all just go away
More so than in the past
Giving up is what "they" want us to do -
Trump light after flooding the country by opening the border
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My history of voting has always been never vote for an incumbent, do not vote for labor or business supported candidate, do not vote for anyone that has put a sign out, runs an ad on TV, etc. so I have never voted for a winning candidate. I have always been the voting results "other >1%" sometimes up to 10%RaceBannon said:
I get this but there seems to be a huge difference to meLebamDawg said:There will be no difference in what gets done by the Feds no matter who gets elected. Does anyone think the 3.5 trillion dollar stuff will be undone? nope -
There will more debt added and pork added to every bill to cover for what the Dems have done for the past 4 years (looking back in 2024) by padding their favorites. Deathsantis and Drumpf when elected will fail in any attempt to improve this mess, andif Biden gets re-electedwhen the mail-in election is counted, we are still screwed just like today.
The best thing that could happen in 2024 is for the vote be tied 2-2, the candidates and their wives are the only ones that vote. I don't think voting works anymore - other than being able to state I did or did not vote for that
I think I have had it as far as politics go - I wish they would all just go away
More so than in the past
Giving up is what "they" want us to do
so I gave up before I started or should I say before they gave me a real reason to give up? -
So you voted for Ron Paul?LebamDawg said:
My history of voting has always been never vote for an incumbent, do not vote for labor or business supported candidate, do not vote for anyone that has put a sign out, runs an ad on TV, etc. so I have never voted for a winning candidate. I have always been the voting results "other >1%" sometimes up to 10%RaceBannon said:
I get this but there seems to be a huge difference to meLebamDawg said:There will be no difference in what gets done by the Feds no matter who gets elected. Does anyone think the 3.5 trillion dollar stuff will be undone? nope -
There will more debt added and pork added to every bill to cover for what the Dems have done for the past 4 years (looking back in 2024) by padding their favorites. Deathsantis and Drumpf when elected will fail in any attempt to improve this mess, andif Biden gets re-electedwhen the mail-in election is counted, we are still screwed just like today.
The best thing that could happen in 2024 is for the vote be tied 2-2, the candidates and their wives are the only ones that vote. I don't think voting works anymore - other than being able to state I did or did not vote for that
I think I have had it as far as politics go - I wish they would all just go away
More so than in the past
Giving up is what "they" want us to do
so I gave up before I started or should I say before they gave me a real reason to give up? -
Went to bed and next morning there were thousands of scorecards. This is a job for Cyber Ninjas!WestlinnDuck said:
More like the boxer who lost on the three judge card by 3 to 2.46XiJCAB said:I like Ron a lot but the machine in DC will do exactly the same as they did to Trump. Being nicer or less in the face isn't going to keep the hounds at bay that matter. The elites that are all in on a one party power system. DIMS.
Trump is like the prize fighter that traded punch for punch and in the end lost. But I'm hoping he learned and is still learning how to jab where it's necessary. I think he'd come in and when the dust settles after 6 months of an ass kicking clean out of the commies is complete, then it's onto the business of restoring this country. He has to know where to start, I think he does.
