Matt Campbell
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Campbell won a NY6 bowl game, something Peterman never did in three attempts @ UW. But still.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable.
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Asterisk neededdigits said:
Campbell won a NY6 bowl game, something Peterman never did in three attempts @ UW. But still.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable. -
I'm coming around on Campbell as well. Never hated him, just prefer Deboner, Aranda and obviously Stoops. I'd take any of the four LONG before Wilcocks.
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Cant believe some folks don't want any part of Campbell. He's far and away the number 2 option behind Stoops and I would argue its closer than most would think since Campbell is so young and gives us more of a chance of lasting a good while. Winning at Iowa State is ridiculously impressive and Campbell has shown himself to be a leader and has an eye for talent.
Stoops, Campbell, Aranda, DeBoer in that order. If not one of those 4, Sitake would be an okay-ish consolation prize -
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I'm so bitter that my test is how the new hire matches up with Cristobal. By this measure, it needs to be someone who has a more impressive name cachet from day 1. But then I realize that this isn't the same as being the best coach long term. So fuck.
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What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
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It was
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Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
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When I saw the two downvotes I was torn because I respect your opinion.FremontTroll said:
Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
But that was good enough to get him the Penn State job so how are we too big for Campbell?
I'm not anti Campbell. I am pro any of the good names and Anyone But Wilcox
Franklin did get the big job off of Vandy. Derrick Mason before him moved up as well.
Doing good at a historically bad school is a great resume builder.
Campbell has been their longer and has sustained winning records. That's a big plus. The SEC was tougher than the Big almost 12 is now. Advantage Franklin
I'll take a yes from either
