Matt Campbell
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My only concern with Aranda is the small sample size as a HC: He's only coached 19 games, going 10-9. But I'd still take him over Wilcox, Sitake, etc. in a heartbeat.RaceBannon said:Campbell was 35-15 at Toledo. Pinkel was 73-27
At ISU Campbell is meh. BUT its Iowa STATE!
I'd take Aranda and let USC have Campbell and see what happens -
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable. -
This description sounds exactly like Pete though.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable. -
A few of Campbell's accomplishments:
- "Campbell coached four full seasons at Toledo: 2012–2015, amassing a record of 35–15. The 2015 team peaked at No. 20 in the AP Poll, including a victory over Arkansas."
- "In his second year, Campbell led Iowa State to an 8–5 season that included wins against #3 Oklahoma and #4 TCU."
- "In 2020, the Cyclones finished in first place in the Big 12, their first regular-season first-place finish of any sort in 119 years. They were selected for the 2021 Fiesta Bowl, the first major-bowl appearance in school history, and defeated Oregon 34-17. They finished ninth in both major polls, the highest final ranking in school history." -
I would take the risk. He knows big time football. He also fired his shitty OC after year one, brought in a good one, and took off this year.digits said:
My only concern with Aranda is the small sample size as a HC: He's only coached 19 games, going 10-9. But I'd still take him over Wilcox, Sitake, etc. in a heartbeat.RaceBannon said:Campbell was 35-15 at Toledo. Pinkel was 73-27
At ISU Campbell is meh. BUT its Iowa STATE!
I'd take Aranda and let USC have Campbell and see what happens
The drawback is Rhuele was a good program builder himself and didn’t leave Aranda with a bare cupboard. They have talent from the previous staff. -
Which is why I give Campbell a slight edge. He had to build that program from the ground up and won some huge games along the way. Don't get me wrong, I think either would be solid hires. Just say no Wilcox and Sitake.RoadDawg55 said:
I would take the risk. He knows big time football. He also fired his shitty OC after year one, brought in a good one, and took off this year.digits said:
My only concern with Aranda is the small sample size as a HC: He's only coached 19 games, going 10-9. But I'd still take him over Wilcox, Sitake, etc. in a heartbeat.RaceBannon said:Campbell was 35-15 at Toledo. Pinkel was 73-27
At ISU Campbell is meh. BUT its Iowa STATE!
I'd take Aranda and let USC have Campbell and see what happens
The drawback is Rhuele was a good program builder himself and didn’t leave Aranda with a bare cupboard. They have talent from the previous staff. -
These interviews are confirmation bias. Nobody gives a shit if you're winning. Imagine talking to these reporters every day.
I'll take Campbell in a heart beat. -
The cyclones have 5 winning records in conference over the last 30 years. Campbell is responsible for 4 of them. That’s not including this year.HireBRoy said:These interviews are confirmation bias. Nobody gives a shit if you're winning. Imagine talking to these reporters every day.
I'll take Campbell in a heart beat.
I can understand him not being top of the list for some, but I couldn’t complain at all if we ended up with him. -
Matt Campbell would get you to shitty bowls every year. You probably would never lose to the Montana’s of the world with him.RaceBannon said:
I was going to ask what he's donewhatshouldicareabout said:
He beat Oregon 34-17NEsnake12 said:Second guessing whether he’d be a good hire after this quote from yesterday. Yikes
Seems qualified to me
Covid wonder like Indiana
But the next November game He wins that counts, will be his first.
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Kaepsknee said:
Matt Campbell would get you to shitty bowls every year. You probably would never lose to the Montana’s of the world with him.RaceBannon said:
I was going to ask what he's donewhatshouldicareabout said:
He beat Oregon 34-17NEsnake12 said:Second guessing whether he’d be a good hire after this quote from yesterday. Yikes
Seems qualified to me
Covid wonder like Indiana
But the next November game He wins that counts, will be his first.
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Campbell won a NY6 bowl game, something Peterman never did in three attempts @ UW. But still.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable.
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Asterisk neededdigits said:
Campbell won a NY6 bowl game, something Peterman never did in three attempts @ UW. But still.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable. -
I'm coming around on Campbell as well. Never hated him, just prefer Deboner, Aranda and obviously Stoops. I'd take any of the four LONG before Wilcocks.
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Cant believe some folks don't want any part of Campbell. He's far and away the number 2 option behind Stoops and I would argue its closer than most would think since Campbell is so young and gives us more of a chance of lasting a good while. Winning at Iowa State is ridiculously impressive and Campbell has shown himself to be a leader and has an eye for talent.
Stoops, Campbell, Aranda, DeBoer in that order. If not one of those 4, Sitake would be an okay-ish consolation prize -
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I'm so bitter that my test is how the new hire matches up with Cristobal. By this measure, it needs to be someone who has a more impressive name cachet from day 1. But then I realize that this isn't the same as being the best coach long term. So fuck.
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What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one -
It was
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Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
But that was good enough to get him the Penn State job so how are we too big for Campbell? -
When I saw the two downvotes I was torn because I respect your opinion.FremontTroll said:
Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
But that was good enough to get him the Penn State job so how are we too big for Campbell?
I'm not anti Campbell. I am pro any of the good names and Anyone But Wilcox
Franklin did get the big job off of Vandy. Derrick Mason before him moved up as well.
Doing good at a historically bad school is a great resume builder.
Campbell has been their longer and has sustained winning records. That's a big plus. The SEC was tougher than the Big almost 12 is now. Advantage Franklin
I'll take a yes from either -
Reading the replies I was reminded that Johnny Majors and Earl Bruce coached there. Majors went to Pitt and won a national championship then to UT. Bruce followed Woody at Ohio State. Tough act. And Walden sucked there
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How many Zaxby’s Heart of Dallas Bowls has Campbell won?digits said:
Campbell won a NY6 bowl game, something Peterman never did in three attempts @ UW. But still.RatherBeBrewing said:
It would be an impressive hire. Desirable positions have been offered to Campbell, and if he leaves for Washington then Washington’s dick looks bigger than if they hired DeBoner or Wilcocks.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
I chit-chatted on some Iowa State board last year before the two time defending Pac-12 champs played them. They love the guy, but they’ve been so starved of any semblance of good football that they love him in the same way a Uruguayan rugby player loves human meat. When it’s the best you think you’ll ever get it becomes precious.
What Campbell has achieved there is impressive. They are recruiting better than they had hoped for, and he somehow managed to put together a team that had three first team All-Americans, one of whom wasn’t even overrated. As for his style, I’d describe it as boring as fuck. Don’t make mistakes and hope the others do. It limits gets blown away, and since a football bounces unpredictably it lets you beat better teams once in a while. I’d say he has a 10 win ceiling at Washington with a 7 win floor. Not quite the excitement of the Peterman highs, but respectable.
I understand that Iowa State is a tough place to win, and occasionally losing to Northern Iowa or Louisiana-Lafayette is to be expected. As is needing a last second TD or 3OT to beat an FCS team. I also have no doubt Campbell will do better in the Apple Cup than he has against Iowa, if only because I don’t think he’d last long enough to go 0-6.
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Franklin wasn’t beating the heavyweights in his conference if I recall. Maybe I am wrong. Plus he hired Jon don so nuff said on that.RaceBannon said:
When I saw the two downvotes I was torn because I respect your opinion.FremontTroll said:
Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
But that was good enough to get him the Penn State job so how are we too big for Campbell?
I'm not anti Campbell. I am pro any of the good names and Anyone But Wilcox
Franklin did get the big job off of Vandy. Derrick Mason before him moved up as well.
Doing good at a historically bad school is a great resume builder.
Campbell has been their longer and has sustained winning records. That's a big plus. The SEC was tougher than the Big almost 12 is now. Advantage Franklin
I'll take a yes from either -
James Franklin is the only coach in the world who has hired Jon Donovan as his OC more times than Jimmy Lake has.AtomicDawg said:
Franklin wasn’t beating the heavyweights in his conference if I recall. Maybe I am wrong. Plus he hired Jon don so nuff said on that.RaceBannon said:
When I saw the two downvotes I was torn because I respect your opinion.FremontTroll said:
Hard disagree. I’ve gone through this before but the five teams Franklin beat in conference for his magical 5-3 2012 season had a total of six conference wins. Franklin only stayed at Vandy three seasons and that was his only year with a winning conference record.RaceBannon said:What Franklin did at Vanderbilt was as impressive as Campbell at Iowa State
Coin toss on that one
But that was good enough to get him the Penn State job so how are we too big for Campbell?
I'm not anti Campbell. I am pro any of the good names and Anyone But Wilcox
Franklin did get the big job off of Vandy. Derrick Mason before him moved up as well.
Doing good at a historically bad school is a great resume builder.
Campbell has been their longer and has sustained winning records. That's a big plus. The SEC was tougher than the Big almost 12 is now. Advantage Franklin
I'll take a yes from either
Nuff said chindeed.
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He’s 0-6 against freakin Iowa? And people want him to be our coach? Wtf?
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James Franklin had an absolute STACKED roster for a few years with Trace McSorley, Saquon Barkely, Chris Godwin, Juwan Johnson, Miles Sanders etc. Anyone with a fucking pulse could have won with that group.
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Was he responsible for getting those guys? I honestly don't know, but if he was, that's SOMETHING. Franklin doesn't excite me, but if he can keep the good players from leaving the state, keep the island people coming to Seattle and re-establish the California connections, he might be good here.CuntWaffle said:James Franklin had an absolute STACKED roster for a few years with Trace McSorley, Saquon Barkely, Chris Godwin, Juwan Johnson, Miles Sanders etc. Anyone with a fucking pulse could have won with that group.
He could also be another Willingham. -
I dont want Franklin but im pretty sure at this point he isn’t willinghamTheHB said:
Was he responsible for getting those guys? I honestly don't know, but if he was, that's SOMETHING. Franklin doesn't excite me, but if he can keep the good players from leaving the state, keep the island people coming to Seattle and re-establish the California connections, he might be good here.CuntWaffle said:James Franklin had an absolute STACKED roster for a few years with Trace McSorley, Saquon Barkely, Chris Godwin, Juwan Johnson, Miles Sanders etc. Anyone with a fucking pulse could have won with that group.
He could also be another Willingham. -
Franklin reminds me more of a Cristobol. Shitty coach but is a very good recruiter. Currently #5 ranked recruiting class. I also don't want him simply for the fact he was the original dumbass that employed Jon Don.WilburHooksHands said:
I dont want Franklin but im pretty sure at this point he isn’t willinghamTheHB said:
Was he responsible for getting those guys? I honestly don't know, but if he was, that's SOMETHING. Franklin doesn't excite me, but if he can keep the good players from leaving the state, keep the island people coming to Seattle and re-establish the California connections, he might be good here.CuntWaffle said:James Franklin had an absolute STACKED roster for a few years with Trace McSorley, Saquon Barkely, Chris Godwin, Juwan Johnson, Miles Sanders etc. Anyone with a fucking pulse could have won with that group.
He could also be another Willingham. -
After seeing Johnny Majors I am all in on Campbell coming here and winning the national championship and recruiting Tony Dorsett
I stand by Franklin being Petersen. Good and bad. Maybe a better recruiter but that might be Penn State being a better destination than UW
