The final word on lake’s recruiting
He gets fired, and all of our? commits have stayed committed. Lmao.
He literally didn’t have a single recruit who was here for Coach Lake. They all committed to the program. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before.
He obviously did not give a shit/sucked at recruiting. But this level of ineptitude makes me wonder: if he was even half-relatable or put in a nominal amount of effort, how much better would last year’s class have been?
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/dawgs-are-loyal-without-a-head-coach-whats-keeping-uw-footballs-2022-recruits-committed/
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Just glad he is gone, Cohen must be next
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Stop being disrespectful to Nevada. They still have time to flip some of them.
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Another possibility, recruits are hoping the incoming coach honors the offers and they end up on a much better team than otherwise.(Stoops prayingdoog.gif)doogville said:Not that it needed being said, but in case there was any doubt Jimmy fucking sucked at recruiting...
He gets fired, and all of our? commits have stayed committed. Lmao.
He literally didn’t have a single recruit who was here for Coach Lake. They all committed to the program. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before.
He obviously did not give a shit/sucked at recruiting. But this level of ineptitude makes me wonder: if he was even half-relatable or put in a nominal amount of effort, how much better would last year’s class have been?
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/dawgs-are-loyal-without-a-head-coach-whats-keeping-uw-footballs-2022-recruits-committed/ -
Dawgman released a podcast with Cooper Petanga, the ex UW recruiting analyst under Petersen and now national recruiting analyst for 247, who essentially said that Jimmy Lake and his staff quit on recruiting.
I forget the exact wording he used but essentially said "Jimmy talked a big game" on recruiting but never followed through on it while he was head coach. He mentioned the speech he gave at halftime of the basketball game specifically as a time where his rhetoric didn't match his effort/outcome. Petanga also said the staff thought they were such good developers that they could bring in inferior talent and coach them into players that they could win conference championships with. Petanga seemed to generally think that Jimmy was all hat and no cattle during his tenure as head coach... talked a big game but didn't deliver.
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Article/Washington-Huskies-football-recruiting-DawgmanRadio-Talking-Coaching-Search-And-Recruiting-With-Cooper-Petagna-LSU-Dave-Aranda-USC-Lincoln-Riley-James-Franklin-175466677/ -
Not that I want most of these shitty recruits but we will see what happens when all the assistant coaches get walked out the door. I'll bet at least a few will change their tune when the position coach they committed to is gone
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Honestly, after hearing that my reaction to Jimmy is that he can go to hell. I thought that I had come to terms with Jimmy not working out as head coach and that I was willing to let him ride into the sunset and remember him fondly for what he did when he was a DB coach and coordinator but honestly, fuck him. He knew what he was getting himself into and he knew the level of effort that was needed in order to keep our program on a Petersen-era trajectory but he completely mailed it in and half-assed the job and walked away with 10 million dollars of booster/fan money.louism2wash said:Dawgman released a podcast with Cooper Petanga, the ex UW recruiting analyst under Petersen and now national recruiting analyst for 247, who essentially said that Jimmy Lake and his staff quit on recruiting.
I forget the exact wording he used but essentially said "Jimmy talked a big game" on recruiting but never followed through on it while he was head coach. He mentioned the speech he gave at halftime of the basketball game specifically as a time where his rhetoric didn't match his effort/outcome. Petanga also said the staff thought they were such good developers that they could bring in inferior talent and coach them into players that they could win conference championships with. Petanga seemed to generally think that Jimmy was all hat and no cattle during his tenure as head coach... talked a big game but didn't deliver.
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Article/Washington-Huskies-football-recruiting-DawgmanRadio-Talking-Coaching-Search-And-Recruiting-With-Cooper-Petagna-LSU-Dave-Aranda-USC-Lincoln-Riley-James-Franklin-175466677/ -
Even Baird said on the honks show that he doesn't feel bad for him seeing as he walked away with all that $$. That's cutting coming from himlouism2wash said:
Honestly, after hearing that my reaction to Jimmy is that he can go to hell. I thought that I had come to terms with Jimmy not working out as head coach and that I was willing to let him ride into the sunset and remember him fondly for what he did when he was a DB coach and coordinator but honestly, fuck him. He knew what he was getting himself into and he knew the level of effort that was needed in order to keep our program on a Petersen-era trajectory but he completely mailed it in and half-assed the job and walked away with 10 million dollars of booster/fan money. -
I respect the years and successes that Jimmy hadCanadawg said:
Even Baird said on the honks show that he doesn't feel bad for him seeing as he walked away with all that $$. That's cutting coming from him
That was also a while ago
He failed spectacularly as a head coach so much so that he got fired than 81% of people thought was even possible … and he got a $10M parachute on the way for his efforts
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How helpful would this have been had it been released six weeks ago?louism2wash said:Dawgman released a podcast with Cooper Petanga, the ex UW recruiting analyst under Petersen and now national recruiting analyst for 247, who essentially said that Jimmy Lake and his staff quit on recruiting.
I forget the exact wording he used but essentially said "Jimmy talked a big game" on recruiting but never followed through on it while he was head coach. He mentioned the speech he gave at halftime of the basketball game specifically as a time where his rhetoric didn't match his effort/outcome. Petanga also said the staff thought they were such good developers that they could bring in inferior talent and coach them into players that they could win conference championships with. Petanga seemed to generally think that Jimmy was all hat and no cattle during his tenure as head coach... talked a big game but didn't deliver.
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Article/Washington-Huskies-football-recruiting-DawgmanRadio-Talking-Coaching-Search-And-Recruiting-With-Cooper-Petagna-LSU-Dave-Aranda-USC-Lincoln-Riley-James-Franklin-175466677/ -
oh my god petagna's list of coaching candidates at the end made me want to jam stakes in my ears. and my heart.louism2wash said:Dawgman released a podcast with Cooper Petanga, the ex UW recruiting analyst under Petersen and now national recruiting analyst for 247, who essentially said that Jimmy Lake and his staff quit on recruiting.
I forget the exact wording he used but essentially said "Jimmy talked a big game" on recruiting but never followed through on it while he was head coach. He mentioned the speech he gave at halftime of the basketball game specifically as a time where his rhetoric didn't match his effort/outcome. Petanga also said the staff thought they were such good developers that they could bring in inferior talent and coach them into players that they could win conference championships with. Petanga seemed to generally think that Jimmy was all hat and no cattle during his tenure as head coach... talked a big game but didn't deliver.
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Article/Washington-Huskies-football-recruiting-DawgmanRadio-Talking-Coaching-Search-And-Recruiting-With-Cooper-Petagna-LSU-Dave-Aranda-USC-Lincoln-Riley-James-Franklin-175466677/
"UW HC needs to be able to do X, Y, and Z" *procedes to list garbage names that are the antithesis of what he said UW needs*
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edit: why was this moved to the TBS board? We are assessing Lake as a head coach, not scouting or discussing upcoming or current players -
These names being thrown out there are straight from the lazy hire binGladstone said:
oh my god petagna's list of coaching candidates at the end made me want to jam stakes in my ears. and my heart.
"UW HC needs to be able to do X, Y, and Z" *procedes to list garbage names that are the antithesis of what he said UW needs*
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I remember when Uw hired Willingham and everyone was like alright which of his Notre Dame commits are going to follow him to UW and I don’t think one even visited. Reminds me of the Jimmy situation with the guys committed now.
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If you are a number one recruit you can do whatever you want.WoolleyDoog said:I remember when Uw hired Willingham and everyone was like alright which of his Notre Dame commits are going to follow him to UW and I don’t think one even visited. Reminds me of the Jimmy situation with the guys committed now.
Everybody else….DO NOT GO TO A SCHOOL FOR A COACH. EVER. DO NOT. YOU WILL GET SCREWED
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There is still time for the recruits to change their minds or for the new coach to unrecruit them. Until they are officially enrolled and on campus attending classes-practices they are not 100% Dawgs.doogville said:Not that it needed being said, but in case there was any doubt Jimmy fucking sucked at recruiting...
He gets fired, and all of our? commits have stayed committed. Lmao.
He literally didn’t have a single recruit who was here for Coach Lake. They all committed to the program. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before.
He obviously did not give a shit/sucked at recruiting. But this level of ineptitude makes me wonder: if he was even half-relatable or put in a nominal amount of effort, how much better would last year’s class have been?
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/dawgs-are-loyal-without-a-head-coach-whats-keeping-uw-footballs-2022-recruits-committed/
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When you think about it, his flame out was spectacularly fast. I think most people got something of a pass for COVID. Assuming he did, and I think that's a safe assumption, he's being fired for being spectacularly bad over a very short period of time.Tequilla said:
I respect the years and successes that Jimmy had
That was also a while ago
He failed spectacularly as a head coach so much so that he got fired than 81% of people thought was even possible … and he got a $10M parachute on the way for his efforts
Good luck to him but I ain’t kissing his ass after the fact
Said differently, if somehow somebody had mistakenly made me the Washington HC instead of Shitballz, I myself might have lasted longer than he did. I'm serious because at least I would not have had the sideline escapade or academic prowess. So, like, I would have just sat around, gotten coffee, made sure all my assistant coaches showed up, made some random comments during practice, met with my assistants and nodded with approval over their game plan recommendations, probably barked at the refs two or three times for effect, and importantly I would NOT have hit or pushed anyone or made dumb Oregon comments to the media.
In that scenario, I think I'm still coaching today. Tell me I'm wrong. This guy may be the most historical HC blowup in history behind only Mike Price strip club Bamers. -
Moorehead was quickly axed at MSU.creepycoug said:
When you think about it, his flame out was spectacularly fast. I think most people got something of a pass for COVID. Assuming he did, and I think that's a safe assumption, he's being fired for being spectacularly bad over a very short period of time.
Said differently, if somehow somebody had mistakenly made me the Washington HC instead of Shitballz, I myself might have lasted longer than he did. I'm serious because at least I would not have had the sideline escapade or academic prowess. So, like, I would have just sat around, gotten coffee, made sure all my assistant coaches showed up, made some random comments during practice, met with my assistants and nodded with approval over their game plan recommendations, probably barked at the refs two or three times for effect, and importantly I would NOT have hit or pushed anyone or made dumb Oregon comments to the media.
In that scenario, I think I'm still coaching today. Tell me I'm wrong. This guy may be the most historical HC blowup in history behind only Mike Price strip club Bamers.
Chad Morris deserves further investigation.
The sec doesn’t mess around once they know you suck for sure. Texas is learning this the hard way. -
The revenue loss from Covid and the lack of any sign of that changing got Jimmy fired this quicklycreepycoug said:
When you think about it, his flame out was spectacularly fast. I think most people got something of a pass for COVID. Assuming he did, and I think that's a safe assumption, he's being fired for being spectacularly bad over a very short period of time.
Said differently, if somehow somebody had mistakenly made me the Washington HC instead of Shitballz, I myself might have lasted longer than he did. I'm serious because at least I would not have had the sideline escapade or academic prowess. So, like, I would have just sat around, gotten coffee, made sure all my assistant coaches showed up, made some random comments during practice, met with my assistants and nodded with approval over their game plan recommendations, probably barked at the refs two or three times for effect, and importantly I would NOT have hit or pushed anyone or made dumb Oregon comments to the media.
In that scenario, I think I'm still coaching today. Tell me I'm wrong. This guy may be the most historical HC blowup in history behind only Mike Price strip club Bamers.
Still kind of shocking it happened quite honestly
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You're not wrong at all. All you would have to do is keep things as unchanged as possible the second you walk into the building. Have IT pull Pete's work calendar for you and simply mimic whatever he did.creepycoug said:
When you think about it, his flame out was spectacularly fast. I think most people got something of a pass for COVID. Assuming he did, and I think that's a safe assumption, he's being fired for being spectacularly bad over a very short period of time.
Said differently, if somehow somebody had mistakenly made me the Washington HC instead of Shitballz, I myself might have lasted longer than he did. I'm serious because at least I would not have had the sideline escapade or academic prowess. So, like, I would have just sat around, gotten coffee, made sure all my assistant coaches showed up, made some random comments during practice, met with my assistants and nodded with approval over their game plan recommendations, probably barked at the refs two or three times for effect, and importantly I would NOT have hit or pushed anyone or made dumb Oregon comments to the media.
In that scenario, I think I'm still coaching today. Tell me I'm wrong. This guy may be the most historical HC blowup in history behind only Mike Price strip club Bamers.
Let your recruiting staff tell you when and where you need to be. Use 247 rankings to help you make final decisions on who gets offers and which in-home visits you attend. Let your coordinators handle the entirety of game plans. Given that you likely know nothing about some of the finer details of the game, just pay $150k to a local high school coach to ghost consult for you so your staff doesn't sniff you out as a fraud right away. Get your fraudulent framework in place week one of the job, and then just spend the rest of your time Constanza-scheming ways to convince all of your staff and upper campus bosses that you're adding value and grinding every day.
Everyone will almost certainly come around to the fact that you're hilariously in over your head, and shit will fall apart. But by that time you'll have lasted more than 22 months on the job.
But perhaps that was the point. Why should Jimmy stick around and work at keeping up the charade when he could crater everything as fast as possible and still slither away with his $10m? If the end goal is to make 8 figures as quickly as possible, then he fucking knocked it out of the park. Some might even say it was a grand slam. -
Well, we? all know why he really got fired: the Oregon comment + pushing. Sadly, that is why. If he'd been winning and recruiting, he would have had powerful friends, and then they would have feared him. But of course he had nothing to show in terms of the team trending in the right direction, and the stuff that admins hate happened, and boom. Gone. No warning, just gone.RaceBannon said:
The revenue loss from Covid and the lack of any sign of that changing got Jimmy fired this quickly
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Yes not winning goes without saying but if the coffers were full and the stadium was at least paid full Jen and the gang would be saying that Jimmy is 7-6 and you don't fire a coach after one year and covid and stuff and things like that.creepycoug said:
Well, we? all know what he really got fired: the Oregon comment + pushing. Sadly, that is why. If he'd been winning and recruiting, he would have had powerful friends, and then they would have feared him. But of course he had nothing to show in terms of the team trending in the right direction, and the stuff that admins hate happened, and boom. Gone. No warning, just gone.
Basically the Lambo / Ty defense
All the couragous knights of the keyboards are piling on now and some even did all season to their credit but Jimmy got fired faster than Gilby. I thought we'd have to suffer at least one more season -
Everyone keeps saying Jimmy is walking about with $10 million, and that's true but it's only part of the story. He's walking about with $10million for 2022-2024. But he also got $6.1 million for 2020-2021.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're not wrong at all. All you would have to do is keep things as unchanged as possible the second you walk into the building. Have IT pull Pete's work calendar for you and simply mimic whatever he did.
Let your recruiting staff tell you when and where you need to be. Use 247 rankings to help you make final decisions on who gets offers and which in-home visits you attend. Let your coordinators handle the entirety of game plans. Given that you likely know nothing about some of the finer details of the game, just pay $150k to a local high school coach to ghost consult for you so your staff doesn't sniff you out as a fraud right away. Get your fraudulent framework in place week one of the job, and then just spend the rest of your time Constanza-scheming ways to convince all of your staff and upper campus bosses that you're adding value and grinding every day.
Everyone will almost certainly come around to the fact that you're hilariously in over your head, and shit will fall apart. But by that time you'll have lasted more than 22 months on the job.
But perhaps that was the point. Why should Jimmy stick around and work at keeping up the charade when he could crater everything as fast as possible and still slither away with his $10m? If the end goal is to make 8 figures as quickly as possible, then he fucking knocked it out of the park. Some might even say it was a grand slam.
Dude made $16 million for 13 games, well over $1 million per game.
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Legenddnc said:
Everyone keeps saying Jimmy is walking about with $10 million, and that's true but it's only part of the story. He's walking about with $10million for 2022-2024. But he also got $6.1 million for 2020-2021.
Dude made $16 million for 13 games, well over $1 million per game.
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Frighteningly, that's all pretty much plausible and accurate. I can't think of another line of bidness where you get fired for cause and walk away with your whole contract. Literally even the executive suite doesn't work that way. Sure, bad leaders are unceremoniously "let go" with dignity and they know the company could have pulled the "cause" trigger by which you lose all your equity and performance-based comp and other shit. They send you packing with some "good bye" money, depending on how much shit you could stir up once you're gone. But when you get canned for screwing the pooch, you don't get a lot on your way out, contrary to what people think. If they find someone better, or something else happens that isn't strictly your fuck up, then sure, they send you with some feel-good $$. But when "cause" comes out, it's a different kind of party.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're not wrong at all. All you would have to do is keep things as unchanged as possible the second you walk into the building. Have IT pull Pete's work calendar for you and simply mimic whatever he did.
Let your recruiting staff tell you when and where you need to be. Use 247 rankings to help you make final decisions on who gets offers and which in-home visits you attend. Let your coordinators handle the entirety of game plans. Given that you likely know nothing about some of the finer details of the game, just pay $150k to a local high school coach to ghost consult for you so your staff doesn't sniff you out as a fraud right away. Get your fraudulent framework in place week one of the job, and then just spend the rest of your time Constanza-scheming ways to convince all of your staff and upper campus bosses that you're adding value and grinding every day.
Everyone will almost certainly come around to the fact that you're hilariously in over your head, and shit will fall apart. But by that time you'll have lasted more than 22 months on the job.
But perhaps that was the point. Why should Jimmy stick around and work at keeping up the charade when he could crater everything as fast as possible and still slither away with his $10m? If the end goal is to make 8 figures as quickly as possible, then he fucking knocked it out of the park. Some might even say it was a grand slam.
Fucking HCs always get sent out with their contracts. Boggles the mind, but again, fucking academic admins are always playing with house money. They have no shareholders and thus nobody to answer to. They just ask for more donations from a mindless mob of people who are emotionally tied to the school. -
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One of the main reasons why Lake was supposed to be a decent replacement for Petersen was that he was an elite recruiter and could amp things up to Top 15 classes annually.
Either he stopped caring, trying, or thought it was beneath him once he became HC.
I just hope no Pac-12 program hires him because he is a very good position coach and DB recruiter. Saban's pass D has been leaky so he would be a great fit there.
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I would just wear my Don James style hat (like I already do IRL) and watch practice from a big ass tower. Probably would pour some bourbon in my coffee cup.creepycoug said:
When you think about it, his flame out was spectacularly fast. I think most people got something of a pass for COVID. Assuming he did, and I think that's a safe assumption, he's being fired for being spectacularly bad over a very short period of time.
Said differently, if somehow somebody had mistakenly made me the Washington HC instead of Shitballz, I myself might have lasted longer than he did. I'm serious because at least I would not have had the sideline escapade or academic prowess. So, like, I would have just sat around, gotten coffee, made sure all my assistant coaches showed up, made some random comments during practice, met with my assistants and nodded with approval over their game plan recommendations, probably barked at the refs two or three times for effect, and importantly I would NOT have hit or pushed anyone or made dumb Oregon comments to the media.
In that scenario, I think I'm still coaching today. Tell me I'm wrong. This guy may be the most historical HC blowup in history behind only Mike Price strip club Bamers. -
He stopped following the model Pete set up wanted to hi his own directionHFNY said:One of the main reasons why Lake was supposed to be a decent replacement for Petersen was that he was an elite recruiter and could amp things up to Top 15 classes annually.
Either he stopped caring, trying, or thought it was beneath him once he became HC.
I just hope no Pac-12 program hires him because he is a very good position coach and DB recruiter. Saban's pass D has been leaky so he would be a great fit there.
