Matt Campbell
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Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
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Translation: I go with what we got at Iowa St. I want to be the best team we can be. Give me lemons and I'll make lemonade, but don't give me dogfood and expect a Thanksgiving dinner.
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That’s a realistic list though?Gladstone said:
I think 99% of us would be thrilled with Campbell. He won at two garbage programs and is as close to a sure thing outside of Urban or Stoops levels that you can get.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
1. Stoops
2a. Aranda
2b. Campbell
I do not think we have a realistic shot at Fickell. -
It's realistic until it's not. At least that's the way a real AD should view it.ntxduck said:
That’s a realistic list though?Gladstone said:
I think 99% of us would be thrilled with Campbell. He won at two garbage programs and is as close to a sure thing outside of Urban or Stoops levels that you can get.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
1. Stoops
2a. Aranda
2b. Campbell
I do not think we have a realistic shot at Fickell.
But I see what you did there. -
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
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I generally agree but you could argue he broke through at Penn St because he did win the conference outright and beat Urban at his height. He also recruits really well and with the P12 so awful that's like 2/3 of the battle at UW to lift the program back into the top 2.RaceBannon said:
Franklin is Pete. Adult in charge 9 or 10 wins most years. Hasn't got over the hump at Penn State and might not here. His best team was the Fiesta Bowl champs over WorshingtonGladstone said:If Fickell turns down USC, Aranda is their guy. Franklin probably calls Jen and says he'll take a discount if the rumors of him wanting out badly at PSU are true. I'm not sure how I feel about Franklin.
Let's not pretend Campbell wouldn't be a high profile big dick hire here. We can poke holes in his resume but I would doog like hell if we hired him. Every vacant program has tried to poach this guy.
edit: Ok that OP video was pretty damn weird and gives me PTSD from 2000s UW AD press conferences.
Campbell is a above average but not porn star size dick hire. The whole does more with less thing does not always mean will do more with more. Often it doesn't
Could be a reason he is happy at Iowa State where 6-4 is every goal he had for the squad
I don't love the idea but am playing devil's advocate. I wouldn't hate it either but he's not near the top. He's worlds better than Wilcox of course. -
It's all relative. I trust there are others who know way more than I do. I know he's one of the most sought-after HC's in the country, so he must be good. I just look at his resume and yeah, it's good, but I'm not seeing the greatness.FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
ATBS, I'd be dooging it if UW got him -- assuming Cohen struck out with legit offers to the likes of Stoops and Aranda. -
If we are bashing Dairy Queen then I am fucking OUT
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Counter: Campbell has won consistently (relative to program history) at two separate programs over at least five years. He has scouted, recruited, and developed guys with success. While surrounded by hostile programs with far superior resources. Aranda however is in his 2nd season and only has one good year to show for it. You take risks any way you slice it unless it's a sure thing like Stoops.TheHB said:FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
ATBS, I'd be dooging it if UW got him -- assuming Cohen struck out with legit offers to the likes of Stoops and Aranda. -
Their loss this weekend was on a 62 yard FG at the gun to a kicker whose previous career long started with a 4FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread. -
Who knows. Maybe. If Jen whiffs with all of the national names then get DeBoer in and make sure he understands how overwhelmingly important recruiting is. He won at a 96% clip with 3 titles at lower levels, isn't dumb and likely understands this.ntxduck said:
That’s a realistic list though?Gladstone said:
I think 99% of us would be thrilled with Campbell. He won at two garbage programs and is as close to a sure thing outside of Urban or Stoops levels that you can get.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
1. Stoops
2a. Aranda
2b. Campbell
I do not think we have a realistic shot at Fickell. -
Yep, crazy.Tequilla said:
Their loss this weekend was on a 62 yard FG at the gun to a kicker whose previous career long started with a 4FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
And in their two point loss @Baylor they out gained Baylor by 197 yards (1.2 per play.)
They had a two point conversion chance at the end of the game to tie but the killer was their kick coverage. They gave up a KO return TD and a 41 yard punt return leading to a FG earlier in the second half while trying to come back. -
I think Iowa gained under 150 yards in their win over Iowa StFremontTroll said:
Yep, crazy.Tequilla said:
Their loss this weekend was on a 62 yard FG at the gun to a kicker whose previous career long started with a 4FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
And in their two point loss @Baylor they out gained Baylor by 197 yards (1.2 per play.)
They had a two point conversion chance at the end of the game to tie but the killer was their kick coverage. They gave up a KO return TD and a 41 yard punt return leading to a FG earlier in the second half while trying to come back.
It’s been a real strange year for them
The challenge at a place like Iowa St is that you don’t get the elite depth so you can have challenges with injuries, etc … which may be a factor in some of these close losses
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they win at Oklahoma this weekend -
Yep, that game was a big part of why Iowa was so overrated because people convinced themselves that the Iowa defense had some magic ability to force turnovers while their shitty offense was somehow great at protecting the ball when really they were just running hot.Tequilla said:
I think Iowa gained under 150 yards in their win over Iowa StFremontTroll said:
Yep, crazy.Tequilla said:
Their loss this weekend was on a 62 yard FG at the gun to a kicker whose previous career long started with a 4FremontTroll said:
That’s why you look at the entire resume. Anything can happen in a small sample. Their three conference losses were all on the road and by a TOTAL of 12 points. They’ve also blown some teams out.TheHB said:Campbell 2021 ... not his best effort.
Overall they are 4-6 against the spread.
And in their two point loss @Baylor they out gained Baylor by 197 yards (1.2 per play.)
They had a two point conversion chance at the end of the game to tie but the killer was their kick coverage. They gave up a KO return TD and a 41 yard punt return leading to a FG earlier in the second half while trying to come back.
It’s been a real strange year for them
The challenge at a place like Iowa St is that you don’t get the elite depth so you can have challenges with injuries, etc … which may be a factor in some of these close losses
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they win at Oklahoma this weekend
Anyway, that benefited me betting against them in the Penn State/Purdue/Wisconsin stretch (wish Clifford hadn’t gone down though.) -
Iowa had a really good 5-6 game stretch
Clifford showed what happened when a competent QB goes against them and turnovers arent a factor
Likewise I’ve been fading them hard the last few weeks … I faded them against Minnesota and likely will as well when they play Nebraska -
YesGladstone said:
I generally agree but you could argue he broke through at Penn St because he did win the conference outright and beat Urban at his height. He also recruits really well and with the P12 so awful that's like 2/3 of the battle at UW to lift the program back into the top 2.RaceBannon said:
Franklin is Pete. Adult in charge 9 or 10 wins most years. Hasn't got over the hump at Penn State and might not here. His best team was the Fiesta Bowl champs over WorshingtonGladstone said:If Fickell turns down USC, Aranda is their guy. Franklin probably calls Jen and says he'll take a discount if the rumors of him wanting out badly at PSU are true. I'm not sure how I feel about Franklin.
Let's not pretend Campbell wouldn't be a high profile big dick hire here. We can poke holes in his resume but I would doog like hell if we hired him. Every vacant program has tried to poach this guy.
edit: Ok that OP video was pretty damn weird and gives me PTSD from 2000s UW AD press conferences.
Campbell is a above average but not porn star size dick hire. The whole does more with less thing does not always mean will do more with more. Often it doesn't
Could be a reason he is happy at Iowa State where 6-4 is every goal he had for the squad
I don't love the idea but am playing devil's advocate. I wouldn't hate it either but he's not near the top. He's worlds better than Wilcox of course.
Campbell, Franklin, and Aranda all get my 500k donation
Wilcox no
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If you've ever hired Jon Donovan as your OC you can't be our Head Coach.Gladstone said:
I generally agree but you could argue he broke through at Penn St because he did win the conference outright and beat Urban at his height. He also recruits really well and with the P12 so awful that's like 2/3 of the battle at UW to lift the program back into the top 2.RaceBannon said:
Franklin is Pete. Adult in charge 9 or 10 wins most years. Hasn't got over the hump at Penn State and might not here. His best team was the Fiesta Bowl champs over WorshingtonGladstone said:If Fickell turns down USC, Aranda is their guy. Franklin probably calls Jen and says he'll take a discount if the rumors of him wanting out badly at PSU are true. I'm not sure how I feel about Franklin.
Let's not pretend Campbell wouldn't be a high profile big dick hire here. We can poke holes in his resume but I would doog like hell if we hired him. Every vacant program has tried to poach this guy.
edit: Ok that OP video was pretty damn weird and gives me PTSD from 2000s UW AD press conferences.
Campbell is a above average but not porn star size dick hire. The whole does more with less thing does not always mean will do more with more. Often it doesn't
Could be a reason he is happy at Iowa State where 6-4 is every goal he had for the squad
I don't love the idea but am playing devil's advocate. I wouldn't hate it either but he's not near the top. He's worlds better than Wilcox of course.
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This is pretty much exactly as I have it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Stoops >>>>>>>> Aranda>DeBoner>>>>>>>>Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>PGOS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wilcocks
Stoops is homerun.
Aranda and Deboner are solid triples driving in a couple runs.
Campbell is a single with nobody on.
Wilcocks is falling down and getting tagged out while the left fielder laughs at you on the way to first after a bunt.
@Tequilla nope it was in fact my best effort -
Swaye said:
This is pretty much exactly as I have it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Stoops >>>>>>>> Aranda>DeBoner>>>>>>>>Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>PGOS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wilcocks
Stoops is homerun.
Aranda and Deboner are solid triples driving in a couple runs.
Campbell is a single with nobody on.
Wilcocks is falling down and getting tagged out while the left fielder laughs at you on the way to first after a bunt.
Lake?
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Every time I see that I imagine it's @RaceBannon thumping @HondoRIPDWAGDoogmanRefund said:Swaye said:
This is pretty much exactly as I have it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Stoops >>>>>>>> Aranda>DeBoner>>>>>>>>Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>PGOS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wilcocks
Stoops is homerun.
Aranda and Deboner are solid triples driving in a couple runs.
Campbell is a single with nobody on.
Wilcocks is falling down and getting tagged out while the left fielder laughs at you on the way to first after a bunt.
Lake? -
So he is Jim Walden and should take over at WazzouRaceBannon said:
Franklin is Pete. Adult in charge 9 or 10 wins most years. Hasn't got over the hump at Penn State and might not here. His best team was the Fiesta Bowl champs over WorshingtonGladstone said:If Fickell turns down USC, Aranda is their guy. Franklin probably calls Jen and says he'll take a discount if the rumors of him wanting out badly at PSU are true. I'm not sure how I feel about Franklin.
Let's not pretend Campbell wouldn't be a high profile big dick hire here. We can poke holes in his resume but I would doog like hell if we hired him. Every vacant program has tried to poach this guy.
edit: Ok that OP video was pretty damn weird and gives me PTSD from 2000s UW AD press conferences.
Campbell is a above average but not porn star size dick hire. The whole does more with less thing does not always mean will do more with more. Often it doesn't
Could be a reason he is happy at Iowa State where 6-4 is every goal he had for the squad -
The close games vs FCS opponents, the regression this year. His offenses aren’t great. I like him. I think he’s an 8-4, 9-3 type coach. I think DeBoer has a higher ceiling, but that is based on nothing but a gut feeling.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still) -
ThisRoadDawg55 said:
The close games vs FCS opponents, the regression this year. His offenses aren’t great. I like him. I think he’s an 8-4, 9-3 type coach. I think DeBoer has a higher ceiling, but that is based on nothing but a gut feeling.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still) -
If PGOS doesn’t like Campbell … that makes me like him more
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The more I read about Campbell, the more I like him. People say Cal is a tough place for Wilcox to win. By comparison, Campbell has the best record at Iowa State of any coach since World War I. After Stoops, he's my realistic #2 - as we probably aren't getting Fickel or Aranda.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still) -
DeBoer is my guy. I understand how the three seeming favorites here, Stoops in particular, rate higher to most. I also have a feeling about DeBoer, have a lot of faith in coaches who dominate at whatever level they coach at, and am exceedingly impressed with what he does with offenses. UW is way overdue for a prolific offense. All the cool kids these days air it out.RoadDawg55 said:
The close games vs FCS opponents, the regression this year. His offenses aren’t great. I like him. I think he’s an 8-4, 9-3 type coach. I think DeBoer has a higher ceiling, but that is based on nothing but a gut feeling.FremontTroll said:Why don’t people like Campbell exactly?
-Was youngest head coach in FBS when took over Toledo. Still only 41.
-Dominated peers in the MAC and scored multiple OOC upsets.
-First conference title game appearance in Iowa State history. They’ve never won Big 8/12.
-First major bowl win in ISU history. Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce never won there.
-Only took two years to turn around the program (remember Stoops year 2?)
-Consistently in top third of conference since year 2 despite lack of resources or any history or tradition.
-Coach of the year in his conference four out of nine years (awards are stupid but still)
Plus I want to be the program that snatches up a new guy before he blows up, -
Since its a crap shoot I'm not going to say it has to be one guy or else
There are strengths for each of the top 3 or 4 choices
Which is why Wilcox is going to hurt when he's hired -
Hiring Wilcox is a huge fuck you to the program and fans
Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Wilcox would do well at WSU -
