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Ken Griswold on Wilcox

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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    RaceBannon said:

    Maybe if we hire someone classy like Sark, Kwat will come back

    I’m in sick ‘Em beat bear country but still enough ut fans. They are about to lynch both of them… yes, I realized what I just said. This is central texASS though.

    It just means more.
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  • Bonedog
    Bonedog Member Posts: 650
    Cal still to high
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,848
    Wilner is such a clueless ass-clown for putting this out there and having idiot Husky fans latch onto it. So let me get this straight, Peterman quits on us?, we? hire his protégé Lake, who turns out to be an absolute bust, and our solution is to hire another Peterman disciple who hasn't done jack shit at Cal? Fuck that noise, we need to go out and hire the best coach out there. Unfortunately, USC is in the market too.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,636 Standard Supporter

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  • WRDawg
    WRDawg Member Posts: 58
    Don’t forget he’s a Duck alumni and so is his DC. How could an alumni ever want to beat the shit outta the team they once played for…
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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam
    Justin Wilcox = just fine. Nothing more nothing less. If you want your program to be just fine (7-9 wins) then he is your man.

    Here's the deal if you can be even just above average in the shitty Pac-12 (especially the North) your floor should be 9 wins. Wilcox's ceiling is that and to get there he would have to have a year like Oregon is having where teams shit the bed (including his Cal team) multiple times in a season giving them the win.
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  • 2Z4
    2Z4 Member Posts: 23
    Wilcox was DC when Boise State (#14) beat Oregon (#16) in Chip Kelly's first game as a head coach, with Oregon playing a community college transfer who was closer to a fullback as QB1. Oregon possessed the ball in that game for 10 minutes and change and turned it over twice in the 4th quarter. If someone hung their hat on that as the evidence of Wilcox's ability at DC or HC...that's too small a sample size. And they forgot Wilcox was DC at Tennessee the following year when Oregon bent them over 48-13 in their own stadium.

    That's part of what's wrong with coaching searches - picking a small sample size of stuff that might be outliers to justify a rosier picture. Which is how Sark keeps getting hired.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,473 Founders Club
    Yeah Wilcox was fired up after Oregon fumbled to end the game last year.

    Hiring grads of opposing schools to do your marketing is stupid. Coaches, doesn't matter and it's all personal egos and wins.

    Does remind me though that Wilcox wasn't too happy with someone after 2013, "9 wins" and all that.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,840 Founders Club
    WoolleyDoog said:

    Wilcox

    Pros:

    • He's not Lake
    • He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
    • Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
    • The defense will always be good
    • Evan Weaver as LB coach?
    Cons:
    • Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
    • He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
    • He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
    • Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
    • His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
    • Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
    Did I mention he lost to Lake?
    Cohen probably thinks he's hawt
    Hedges thought Rick was hot
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