Why hire him as hc when you could probably get him as your dc a year later. Everybody wins.
With Berkeley, the University, the players, and the coaching staff all pointing fingers at each other over the COVID-19 situation maybe we get him as a dc this year...
Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
Has anyone suggested to Kim that Wilcox go to some other training ground where it's possible to win, prove that he can do so, and then enter the conversation for primo HC positions?
Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...
Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...
He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.
Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...
He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.
He went there because it was a power 5 gig and it paid way more than the dc of Wisconsin.
If his goal was to get an upper tier job he should have gone to the mwc first probably. I don’t fault him. Get it while the gettin is good.
Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
The defense will always be good
Evan Weaver as LB coach?
Cons:
Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Did I mention he lost to Lake? Cohen probably thinks he's hawt
Maybe if we hire someone classy like Sark, Kwat will come back
I’m in sick ‘Em beat bear country but still enough ut fans. They are about to lynch both of them… yes, I realized what I just said. This is central texASS though.
Wilner is such a clueless ass-clown for putting this out there and having idiot Husky fans latch onto it. So let me get this straight, Peterman quits on us?, we? hire his protégé Lake, who turns out to be an absolute bust, and our solution is to hire another Peterman disciple who hasn't done jack shit at Cal? Fuck that noise, we need to go out and hire the best coach out there. Unfortunately, USC is in the market too.
Justin Wilcox = just fine. Nothing more nothing less. If you want your program to be just fine (7-9 wins) then he is your man.
Here's the deal if you can be even just above average in the shitty Pac-12 (especially the North) your floor should be 9 wins. Wilcox's ceiling is that and to get there he would have to have a year like Oregon is having where teams shit the bed (including his Cal team) multiple times in a season giving them the win.
Don’t forget he’s a Duck alumni and so is his DC. How could an alumni ever want to beat the shit outta the team they once played for…
His OC is also a Duck, Bill Musgrave. And you’ll love who his position coach in college was. Hint: he’s the (interim) head coach at the University of Washington.
It doesn’t matter, coaching trees are incestuous. No one gives a fuck where you played college ball or were a GA if you’re good at coaching football.
If anything Wilcox licks his lips at the chance to beat Oregon. He’s not exactly Mr. Popularity there after his Boise boys cheap shotted Masoli like the hallowed grounds of Rich Brooks Field are some kind of Bay Area bus stop and they want his wallet.
Bellotti, Dan “the Hawk” Hawkins, and Peterman came from UC Davis. So did Alliotti. From that branch Koetter, Tedford, Gregory, Gould, Pellum, Greatwood, Helf, it’s all one tree that made its way through UO, PSU, Willamette, Boise JC, Cal, UW. Jimmy Lake is a branch that got grafted on to Petersen’s and died.
Wilcox was DC when Boise State (#14) beat Oregon (#16) in Chip Kelly's first game as a head coach, with Oregon playing a community college transfer who was closer to a fullback as QB1. Oregon possessed the ball in that game for 10 minutes and change and turned it over twice in the 4th quarter. If someone hung their hat on that as the evidence of Wilcox's ability at DC or HC...that's too small a sample size. And they forgot Wilcox was DC at Tennessee the following year when Oregon bent them over 48-13 in their own stadium.
That's part of what's wrong with coaching searches - picking a small sample size of stuff that might be outliers to justify a rosier picture. Which is how Sark keeps getting hired.
Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
The defense will always be good
Evan Weaver as LB coach?
Cons:
Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Did I mention he lost to Lake? Cohen probably thinks he's hawt
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If his goal was to get an upper tier job he should have gone to the mwc first probably. I don’t fault him. Get it while the gettin is good.
It just means more.
Here's the deal if you can be even just above average in the shitty Pac-12 (especially the North) your floor should be 9 wins. Wilcox's ceiling is that and to get there he would have to have a year like Oregon is having where teams shit the bed (including his Cal team) multiple times in a season giving them the win.
It doesn’t matter, coaching trees are incestuous. No one gives a fuck where you played college ball or were a GA if you’re good at coaching football.
If anything Wilcox licks his lips at the chance to beat Oregon. He’s not exactly Mr. Popularity there after his Boise boys cheap shotted Masoli like the hallowed grounds of Rich Brooks Field are some kind of Bay Area bus stop and they want his wallet.
Bellotti, Dan “the Hawk” Hawkins, and Peterman came from UC Davis. So did Alliotti. From that branch Koetter, Tedford, Gregory, Gould, Pellum, Greatwood, Helf, it’s all one tree that made its way through UO, PSU, Willamette, Boise JC, Cal, UW. Jimmy Lake is a branch that got grafted on to Petersen’s and died.
That's part of what's wrong with coaching searches - picking a small sample size of stuff that might be outliers to justify a rosier picture. Which is how Sark keeps getting hired.
Hiring grads of opposing schools to do your marketing is stupid. Coaches, doesn't matter and it's all personal egos and wins.
Does remind me though that Wilcox wasn't too happy with someone after 2013, "9 wins" and all that.