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Ken Griswold on Wilcox
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I’m in sick ‘Em beat bear country but still enough ut fans. They are about to lynch both of them… yes, I realized what I just said. This is central texASS though.RaceBannon said:Maybe if we hire someone classy like Sark, Kwat will come back
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Cal still to high
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Wilner is such a clueless ass-clown for putting this out there and having idiot Husky fans latch onto it. So let me get this straight, Peterman quits on us?, we? hire his protégé Lake, who turns out to be an absolute bust, and our solution is to hire another Peterman disciple who hasn't done jack shit at Cal? Fuck that noise, we need to go out and hire the best coach out there. Unfortunately, USC is in the market too.
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Don’t forget he’s a Duck alumni and so is his DC. How could an alumni ever want to beat the shit outta the team they once played for…
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Justin Wilcox = just fine. Nothing more nothing less. If you want your program to be just fine (7-9 wins) then he is your man.
Here's the deal if you can be even just above average in the shitty Pac-12 (especially the North) your floor should be 9 wins. Wilcox's ceiling is that and to get there he would have to have a year like Oregon is having where teams shit the bed (including his Cal team) multiple times in a season giving them the win. -
His OC is also a Duck, Bill Musgrave. And you’ll love who his position coach in college was. Hint: he’s the (interim) head coach at the University of Washington.WRDawg said:Don’t forget he’s a Duck alumni and so is his DC. How could an alumni ever want to beat the shit outta the team they once played for…
It doesn’t matter, coaching trees are incestuous. No one gives a fuck where you played college ball or were a GA if you’re good at coaching football.
If anything Wilcox licks his lips at the chance to beat Oregon. He’s not exactly Mr. Popularity there after his Boise boys cheap shotted Masoli like the hallowed grounds of Rich Brooks Field are some kind of Bay Area bus stop and they want his wallet.
Bellotti, Dan “the Hawk” Hawkins, and Peterman came from UC Davis. So did Alliotti. From that branch Koetter, Tedford, Gregory, Gould, Pellum, Greatwood, Helf, it’s all one tree that made its way through UO, PSU, Willamette, Boise JC, Cal, UW. Jimmy Lake is a branch that got grafted on to Petersen’s and died. -
Wilcox was DC when Boise State (#14) beat Oregon (#16) in Chip Kelly's first game as a head coach, with Oregon playing a community college transfer who was closer to a fullback as QB1. Oregon possessed the ball in that game for 10 minutes and change and turned it over twice in the 4th quarter. If someone hung their hat on that as the evidence of Wilcox's ability at DC or HC...that's too small a sample size. And they forgot Wilcox was DC at Tennessee the following year when Oregon bent them over 48-13 in their own stadium.
That's part of what's wrong with coaching searches - picking a small sample size of stuff that might be outliers to justify a rosier picture. Which is how Sark keeps getting hired. -
Yeah Wilcox was fired up after Oregon fumbled to end the game last year.
Hiring grads of opposing schools to do your marketing is stupid. Coaches, doesn't matter and it's all personal egos and wins.
Does remind me though that Wilcox wasn't too happy with someone after 2013, "9 wins" and all that. -
Hedges thought Rick was hotWoolleyDoog said:Wilcox
Pros:- He's not Lake
- He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
- Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
- The defense will always be good
- Evan Weaver as LB coach?
- Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
- He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
- He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
- Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
- His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
- Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Cohen probably thinks he's hawt - He's not Lake
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Who didn't?DerekJohnson said:
Hedges thought Rick was hotWoolleyDoog said:Wilcox
Pros:- He's not Lake
- He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
- Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
- The defense will always be good
- Evan Weaver as LB coach?
- Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
- He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
- He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
- Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
- His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
- Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Cohen probably thinks he's hawt - He's not Lake
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WellDerekJohnson said:
Hedges thought Rick was hotWoolleyDoog said:Wilcox
Pros:- He's not Lake
- He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
- Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
- The defense will always be good
- Evan Weaver as LB coach?
- Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
- He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
- He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
- Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
- His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
- Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Cohen probably thinks he's hawt - He's not Lake
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this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant. -
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant. -
too soonRaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant. -
god what a smarmy cunt
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Don James coached his assistants. He stood up there in the tower and observed practice. Discipline and respect from both assistants and coaches. This drinking buddy frat party that these well paid coaches spend their time doing is a disservice to what they are hired to do. Sark and his coaches drank heavily while at the UW putting the bill straight to the UW athletic department. The athletic department (Jen Cohen & team) never questioned it even while it was being done on return flights with the team on board watching it. Mike Lude would have been kicking some serious ass. I miss the old days and what this used to be about.
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One of the Bama players said that when the Bear started the slow walk down from the tower butts puckered and players prayed he wasn't coming for them
We? have learned a lot over the years and not giving water and scrimmaging guys for hours really isn't a good thing. At all.
Modern training principles with old school discipline. Toughness. Its a tough game played by tough young men. -
RaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant.
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dnc said:RaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant.
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My head hurts and I still haven't deciphered this.GrundleStiltzkin said:dnc said:RaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant.
PLTIWDNCIDNC
I am ashamed of myself. -
GrundleStiltzkin said:dnc said:RaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant.
PLTIWDNCIDNC53 chins for a bolton gif. Try coming back with something fuuny or clever on your own Truly pathetic. Your little groupie thinkers are equally pathetic and unoriginal. Come on 'guys', step up your game
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finally got itGrundleStiltzkin said:dnc said:RaceBannon said:
@iDawgrodmansrage said:
this is the same shit people pulled when classy af huskers plucked riley from oregon state.bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
'look what hes done there, imagine what he could do there!'
all they got was a foster farms bowl and that stupid 'hip hip hooray' chant.
PLTIWDNCIDNC
