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Ken Griswold on Wilcox

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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    Why hire him as hc when you could probably get him as your dc a year later. Everybody wins.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,588
    Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,810 Swaye's Wigwam

    Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.

    Has anyone suggested to Kim that Wilcox go to some other training ground where it's possible to win, prove that he can do so, and then enter the conversation for primo HC positions?
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,810 Swaye's Wigwam

    Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.

    If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...
    He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    chuck said:

    Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.

    If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...
    He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.
    He went there because it was a power 5 gig and it paid way more than the dc of Wisconsin.

    If his goal was to get an upper tier job he should have gone to the mwc first probably. I don’t fault him. Get it while the gettin is good.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,771 Founders Club

    Remember that Kim likes Wilcox because Wilcox (or probably Sirmon) used to feed him recruiting information.

    That is the only thing Kim cares about.

    Didn’t Kim forget his members only jacket in Wilcox’s office?
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Wilcox

    Pros:

    • He's not Lake
    • He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
    • Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
    • The defense will always be good
    • Evan Weaver as LB coach?
    Cons:
    • Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
    • He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
    • He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
    • Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
    • His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
    • Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
    Did I mention he lost to Lake?
    Cohen probably thinks he's hawt
    We've all seen him work his tongue