Ken Griswold on Wilcox
"Most out here know very little about Wilcox or his situation. He's very well-respected and is in an almost impossible situation right now. I wouldn't dismiss him so quickly with the limited knowledge most out here have. I like Wilcox a lot. And with the right staff, I think he'd do very, very well at UW."
Anybody know Ken's track record for identifying and advocating for successful coaches?
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Never a let an opportunity to provide "insider information" pass without taking shots at your paid subscribers!
Negging your customers. Kim's business basics 101. -
It's OK.GreenRiverGatorz said:Never a let an opportunity to provide "insider information" pass without taking shots at your paid subscribers!
Negging your customers. Kim's business basics 101.
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If "and with the right staff" is part of your support you should fuck off.
It's like the announcer who says it all depends on the spot. No shit
If you are a great coach you get a great staff. If you got the yardage you got the first down -
Sark isn’t just a home run.
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If I was Wilcox, I'd be pissed at Cal too. The Cali Covid rules suck, Berserkley Sucks, and Oregon stole his DC after 2020 because they could offer more money and better talent to coach.
If he could tempt Tedford or Fresno State's OC to join him at UW, then I might start getting interested. -
Wilcox probably told Kimmy good morning once along time ago. So Kimmy has a boner for Wilcox since he probably gave home some attention.
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Remember that Kim likes Wilcox because Wilcox (or probably Sirmon) used to feed him recruiting information.
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This whole Wilcox thing is everything that is wrong with coaching searches and why most end in failure
ADs hire people they like and no and aren't a risk even if they fail. Media supports coaches they like and attack coaches that get on their wrong side
Coaches hire assistants that they like to drink with
When we were doing Ty's office I was hanging around and walked in on a bunch of assistants just playing grab ass while the program burned. I'd call them frat boys but like me they probably couldn't get in a frat.
At one time we documented the "great" James assistants and how bad they were when they weren't his assistant.
Other than Mora not SR and Pinkel not a lot of them had much success.
Wilcox could win at Cal if he was any good. Erickson won at Oregon State
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Just when I've almost moved on and forgotten how much this guy bugs me...
His determination to keep gnawing at his plot to rise to glory alongside a friendly coaching staff is alive and well. He has publicly shamed himself for nearly a fucking decade and still lacks any self awareness. The repetitive failures of the Sark coaching tree haven't quieted him down. He constantly gets called out over his embarrassing boot licking but it hasn't slowed him down. I wonder what it would take? -
YOU'RE WELCOME!chuck said:Just when I've almost moved on and forgotten how much this guy bugs me...
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This. If Wilcox was going 9-4 every year at Cal, I could get behind it. He’s not. He hasn’t had one good offense in his time there either.RaceBannon said:This whole Wilcox thing is everything that is wrong with coaching searches and why most end in failure
ADs hire people they like and no and aren't a risk even if they fail. Media supports coaches they like and attack coaches that get on their wrong side
Coaches hire assistants that they like to drink with
When we were doing Ty's office I was hanging around and walked in on a bunch of assistants just playing grab ass while the program burned. I'd call them frat boys but like me they probably couldn't get in a frat.
At one time we documented the "great" James assistants and how bad they were when they weren't his assistant.
Other than Mora not SR and Pinkel not a lot of them had much success.
Wilcox could win at Cal if he was any good. Erickson won at Oregon State
You either got it or you don't -
Wilner and Ken understand the Pac-12 is TOUGHRaceBannon said:Wilcox could win at Cal if he was any good. Erickson won at Oregon State
You either got it or you don't -
You’d be surprised at the number of dork fraternities out there. You just wood.RaceBannon said:This whole Wilcox thing is everything that is wrong with coaching searches and why most end in failure
ADs hire people they like and no and aren't a risk even if they fail. Media supports coaches they like and attack coaches that get on their wrong side
Coaches hire assistants that they like to drink with
When we were doing Ty's office I was hanging around and walked in on a bunch of assistants just playing grab ass while the program burned. I'd call them frat boys but like me they probably couldn't get in a frat.
At one time we documented the "great" James assistants and how bad they were when they weren't his assistant.
Other than Mora not SR and Pinkel not a lot of them had much success.
Wilcox could win at Cal if he was any good. Erickson won at Oregon State
You either got it or you don't -
They laughed me off the board at dawgman suggesting Sark could replace Tyrone. Took a lot of shit for that one. Ftg’s
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Don't worry, I'm sure the next OC Wilcox hires will be the one that turns this around
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Is Kimmy still ride or die for Hopkins, too? Dialed in.
Nothing like losing as an 18pt favorite at home to drive home why letting a failed coach blow out his staff/roster never fucking works.
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Wilcox
Pros:- He's not Lake
- He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
- Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
- The defense will always be good
- Evan Weaver as LB coach?
- Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
- He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
- He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
- Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
- His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
- Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Cohen probably thinks he's hawt - He's not Lake
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Wilcox is a single. We need a fucking home run.
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Not even a base hit. A bunt to advance a runner from 1st to 2nd.JoeEDangerously said:Wilcox is a single. We need a fucking home run.
I also don’t think there is any legitimacy to the rumor. Just Wilner getting clicks & doing a solid for his buddy (giving him leverage against cal if nothing else). -
He’s a strike out. If we hired a new coach and he was DC, fine.JoeEDangerously said:Wilcox is a single. We need a fucking home run.
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Why hire him as hc when you could probably get him as your dc a year later. Everybody wins.
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Maybe if we hire someone classy like Sark, Kwat will come back
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With Berkeley, the University, the players, and the coaching staff all pointing fingers at each other over the COVID-19 situation maybe we get him as a dc this year...AtomicDawg said:Why hire him as hc when you could probably get him as your dc a year later. Everybody wins.
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Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
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Has anyone suggested to Kim that Wilcox go to some other training ground where it's possible to win, prove that he can do so, and then enter the conversation for primo HC positions?bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
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If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
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He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.FremontTroll said:
If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
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He went there because it was a power 5 gig and it paid way more than the dc of Wisconsin.chuck said:
He went there to be a mediocre coach at a lower tier place. If he thought that was a good bet to springboard him into a blue blood job it says something about his intelligence.FremontTroll said:
If its such an impossible place to win maybe he shouldn't have taken the job? I don't think other programs were exactly knocking down his door though...bananasnblondes said:Kim keeps saying that same shit of "Cal is an impossible place to win. " Recent coaches have certainly not found that to the case.
If his goal was to get an upper tier job he should have gone to the mwc first probably. I don’t fault him. Get it while the gettin is good. -
Didn’t Kim forget his members only jacket in Wilcox’s office?FremontTroll said:Remember that Kim likes Wilcox because Wilcox (or probably Sirmon) used to feed him recruiting information.
That is the only thing Kim cares about. -
We've all seen him work his tongueWoolleyDoog said:Wilcox
Pros:- He's not Lake
- He built a better culture than Petersen at Cal
- Low floor - based on what he did at Cal pre-COVID, doubt he would ever have a losing season at Washington
- The defense will always be good
- Evan Weaver as LB coach?
- Unexciting - this gets no one to buy tickets to games
- He lost to Lake - but didn't Petersen lose to Willingham AND Sark?
- He's struggling in a Pac-12 that is as bad as it has ever been
- Low ceiling - he's put a decent amount on tape and if he was an elite coach he would have already popped and he hasn't
- His offenses were always Donovan-level bad. Like always.
- Any talk of him being able to beat Oregon or nearly beat Oregon. Oregon DGAF about playing Cal and aren't up for that game every year. Wait till he has to play Oregon when there's a W on the helmet. It's also like how Wilcox was going to stop the Chip Kelly offense because he did it at Boise State then got raped every year at UW.
Cohen probably thinks he's hawt
- He's not Lake
