Income inequality on the ski hill


The locals and our goofy, Sen. Ron Wyden are up in arms about the new "fast pass" which Powder Corp (owners of Bachelor and many other resorts) started this year. Pay $49.00 extra per day and get to cut the line.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/10/sen-ron-wyden-skiers-concerned-about-new-mt-bachelor-fast-pass.html
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So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
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The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park? -
One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff
Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay
Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy
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CSBRaceBannon said:One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff
Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay
Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy -
I do love that San Joquin Hills toll road.RaceBannon said:One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff
Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay
Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy
So in August I had my first experience driving around LA using Waze. Some of these short cuts they had us taking on surface roads to avoid 405 bumper cards were fantastic. -
Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.
Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.
Time is money. Always has been. -
YellowSnow said:
I do love that San Joquin Hills toll road.RaceBannon said:One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff
Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay
Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy
So in August I had my first experience driving around LA using Waze. Some of these short cuts they had us taking on surface roads to avoid 405 bumper cards were fantastic.
Too soon?
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And before that there was steerage on the Titanic.whlinder said:Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.
Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.
Time is money. Always has been. -
@RaceBannon was there!!!!YellowSnow said:
And before that there was steerage on the Titanic.whlinder said:Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.
Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.
Time is money. Always has been.
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Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park? -
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper -
I was going to say that the poorsPurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopperski"ride" midweek because they don't have a jerb or they work weekends, then there's the group that ski mid-week because they're so rich they don't have to work or work whenever they want. Or the retired. -
I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros. -
Easy response:YellowSnow said:
I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
SCOREBOARD, BITCHES
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Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
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$49 to skip lines doesn't seem that unreasonable to me, if lines are an issue. I'm not a skier and deaf, but I don't see the big deal here.
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That would be a cunty thing to do. If I’m on the fast pass and get shit talked, im giving them a thumbs up and getting on the chair. If I’m with someone talking shit to fast passers, I’m bombing down the hill and ditching them the rest of the day.YellowSnow said:
I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros. -
Once upon a time children were taught that sticks and stones may break your bones but words can never hurt youRoadDawg55 said:
That would be a cunty thing to do. If I’m on the fast pass and get shit talked, im giving them a thumbs up and getting on the chair. If I’m with someone talking shit to fast passers, I’m bombing down the hill and ditching them the rest of the day.YellowSnow said:
I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
Hurtful -
I'll report back and try to take some videos.RoadDawg55 said:
That would be a cunty thing to do. If I’m on the fast pass and get shit talked, im giving them a thumbs up and getting on the chair. If I’m with someone talking shit to fast passers, I’m bombing down the hill and ditching them the rest of the day.YellowSnow said:
I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
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It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season. -
The Olympia School District ran a bus to Crystal Mountain for 8 weeks. I did it in the 8th grade and learned to ski. Never skied again
I'm guessing it wasn't free and only those of us in a life of privilege had parents that paid but I don't remember -
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Already purchased ours last spring. On sale.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
#thrifty
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I hear they have a real long gonga-la.PurpleThrobber said:
Already purchased ours last spring. On sale.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
#thrifty -
I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy. -
Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.YellowSnow said:
I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
(SWIDT?)
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How are the Milfs in Kellog?PurpleThrobber said:
Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.YellowSnow said:
I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
(SWIDT?) -
Descendants of the hookers in Wallace.YellowSnow said:
How are the Milfs in Kellog?PurpleThrobber said:
Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.YellowSnow said:
I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.YellowSnow said:
Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.PurpleThrobber said:
You guys** sound poor.BennyBeaver said:
Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
No crowds on weekdays.
**(c) @TheKobeStopper
I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
(SWIDT?)
So nice. Very nice.
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Ftr they do sell booze in the OG Park. You just have to not be a poor.YellowSnow said:
The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.BleachedAnusDawg said:So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
Fitting to the OP.