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Income inequality on the ski hill

YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
This is borderline Tug, but I'm the skiing and Central OR news bored so fuck off.

The locals and our goofy, Sen. Ron Wyden are up in arms about the new "fast pass" which Powder Corp (owners of Bachelor and many other resorts) started this year. Pay $49.00 extra per day and get to cut the line.

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/10/sen-ron-wyden-skiers-concerned-about-new-mt-bachelor-fast-pass.html
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,149 Standard Supporter
    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff

    Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay

    Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy

  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff

    Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay

    Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy

    CSB
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    One great thing about California is the fast track. Pay to use one or two separate lanes from the riff raff

    Some are pay only, some are carpool or pay

    Most vehicles in the Southland (iltcit) are single occupancy

    I do love that San Joquin Hills toll road.

    So in August I had my first experience driving around LA using Waze. Some of these short cuts they had us taking on surface roads to avoid 405 bumper cards were fantastic.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.

    Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.

    Time is money. Always has been.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.

    Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.

    Time is money. Always has been.

    And before that there was steerage on the Titanic.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    whlinder said:

    Everyone in all politics hates airlines and shits on them for political points.

    Airlines have had rich class and poor class for 80 years.

    Time is money. Always has been.

    And before that there was steerage on the Titanic.
    @RaceBannon was there!!!!

  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015
    edited October 2021

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    I was going to say that the poors ski "ride" midweek because they don't have a jerb or they work weekends, then there's the group that ski mid-week because they're so rich they don't have to work or work whenever they want. Or the retired.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.

    It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.

    It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
    Easy response:

    SCOREBOARD, BITCHES

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    $49 to skip lines doesn't seem that unreasonable to me, if lines are an issue. I'm not a skier and deaf, but I don't see the big deal here.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.

    It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
    That would be a cunty thing to do. If I’m on the fast pass and get shit talked, im giving them a thumbs up and getting on the chair. If I’m with someone talking shit to fast passers, I’m bombing down the hill and ditching them the rest of the day.
    Once upon a time children were taught that sticks and stones may break your bones but words can never hurt you

    Hurtful
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    I don’t see myself doing it. The chairs I’m usually on - Northwest and Outback - never seem to get that busy even on the weekends.

    It will be funny to see how it plays out because the pours and threatening too boo and shit talk the fast pass bros.
    That would be a cunty thing to do. If I’m on the fast pass and get shit talked, im giving them a thumbs up and getting on the chair. If I’m with someone talking shit to fast passers, I’m bombing down the hill and ditching them the rest of the day.
    I'll report back and try to take some videos.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    The Olympia School District ran a bus to Crystal Mountain for 8 weeks. I did it in the 8th grade and learned to ski. Never skied again

    I'm guessing it wasn't free and only those of us in a life of privilege had parents that paid but I don't remember
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
    Already purchased ours last spring. On sale.

    #thrifty

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
    Already purchased ours last spring. On sale.

    #thrifty

    I hear they have a real long gonga-la.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
    It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.
    I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.

    The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
    Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.


    (SWIDT?)



  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
    It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.
    I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.

    The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
    Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.


    (SWIDT?)



    How are the Milfs in Kellog?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Titanic and airlines are more analogous to the Disneyland in regards to being private businesses. Bachelor is MY hill but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I get both sides but if I'm buying a lift ticket, I'd upgrade to the fast pass no problem on a busy weekend. Mid week or during shitty weather, there's no need.
    You guys** sound poor.

    No crowds on weekdays.

    **(c) @TheKobeStopper
    Skiing is a rich man's game even for the pours. I paid $1,079 for my season pass.

    I don't think you're a SR throbber yet, but Silver Mt is only $499 for a season.
    It’s absolutely a rich man’s game. I went to a certain college and a key reason was to snowboard frequently. Problem was, a day at the mountain and gas, weed, eating, etc would have me eating ramen noodles and too broke to go to bars on the weekend. I basically gave it up and haven’t gotten back into it since. One of these years, I’m getting back to it and will probably even switch back to skiing like I did as a child.
    I think if you live relatively close to mountain and buy a season pass, it can still be a middle class pursuit. For example Bachelor is 25- 30 mins from my driveway and if I ski 20 days this winter, it would be just over $50.00 a pop and about $8.00 in gas round trip. I get a lot of mileage out of my gear as well after the initial investment.

    The tricky part is where do you find middle class housing with in 30- 60 mins of a good ski area? Missoula, Bend, Bozeman, Salt Lake, are all getting pretty spendy.
    Mullan, Wallace, Harrison, Kingston, Athol.


    (SWIDT?)



    How are the Milfs in Kellog?
    Descendants of the hookers in Wallace.

    So nice. Very nice.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,036 Founders Club

    So, same thing as the Disney "fast pass" for Disneyland.

    The logic against seems to be that a resort like Bachelor operates on US Forest Service land, so there's a bit of a egalitarian thing going on here. Disneyland being private property can gouge the fuck out of everyone as much as they want. Shit I spent like a $100.00 alone on blended margs at California Adventure this past August.

    Speaking of Disneyland, what can we do @UW_Doog_Bot to get them to start selling drinks in the OG park?
    Ftr they do sell booze in the OG Park. You just have to not be a poor.

    Fitting to the OP.