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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,345 Standard Supporter
    black coaches always take over downtrodden teams
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,865 Swaye's Wigwam
    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    I know you’re being sarcastic. But the Jaguars are an FCS team.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,865 Swaye's Wigwam
    TTJ said:

    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    I know you’re being sarcastic. But the Jaguars are an FCS team.
    JonDon supports my case, in a sense, just on the opposite end of the success spectrum.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,390
    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    I like this idea. But it still is a crapshoot. Troy Taylor sucked at Utah and beau baldwin sucked at cal. That said hiring a known crappy oc that had given up on his career to the point where he was an asst to the running backs coach is beyond embarrassing.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,946

    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    . I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.
    What makes you think we will fire DonJon to be able to botch a new hire?
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,390

    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.

    Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.

    Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.
    Solid logic behind this but I don’t see any way an up and comer like Hartline goes to a coach like lake who is likely in a make it or break it type season. Maybe if lake has a dominant defense and things were trending up. That’s not the case though.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,375 Founders Club

    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.

    Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.

    Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.
    Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,961 Founders Club

    chuck said:

    thechatch said:

    Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.

    The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.

    This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.
    It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.

    Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.

    Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.
    Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.
    It wouldn’t be lateral. Hartline is their WR coach.