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LawDawg1
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A year and all you have to do is hire a marginally competent OC to keep that salary (and more) forever because you’d likely never get fired. And then you hire JonDon.
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I don't know, if the season goes how I expect it to do, I suspect Lake will have a couch sale.
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His own... Metrics show no coordinator to head coach who fires his coordinators is successful during his first stent. Let Lake go to Bama... Why is UW him to learn on the job?HFNY said:I don't know, if the season goes how I expect it to do, I suspect Lake will have a couch sale.
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Psychologically it’s fascinating.
Coaches are leaders who must project certainty and faith in their decisions to motivate their team. Especially when belief is a major factor for a win. Nothing in that scenario allows for mistakes.
But a coach must also adapt to win. Which means acknowledging mistakes, and to do that effectively you have to do that quickly. Hard job, really. -
Imagine having a blank check (supposedly) to hire any OC you want and then go dumpster diving through the coaching staff of the worse franchise in the NFL and settling on the fucking assistant to the RB coach to run your offense. This will forever be the most WTF assistant hire in the history of the program and a real AD would have vetoed it on the spot.LawDawg1 said:A year and all you have to do is hire a marginally competent OC to keep that salary (and more) forever because you’d likely never get fired. And then you hire JonDon.
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Mission Accomplished
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In all 3 phasesJoeEDangerously said:Mission Accomplished
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Perfectly putinsinceredawg said:
Imagine having a blank check (supposedly) to hire any OC you want and then go dumpster diving through the coaching staff of the worse franchise in the NFL and settling on the fucking assistant to the RB coach to run your offense. This will forever be the most WTF assistant hire in the history of the program and a real AD would have vetoed it on the spot.LawDawg1 said:A year and all you have to do is hire a marginally competent OC to keep that salary (and more) forever because you’d likely never get fired. And then you hire JonDon.
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But he has very innovative offense for 1950insinceredawg said:
Imagine having a blank check (supposedly) to hire any OC you want and then go dumpster diving through the coaching staff of the worse franchise in the NFL and settling on the fucking assistant to the RB coach to run your offense. This will forever be the most WTF assistant hire in the history of the program and a real AD would have vetoed it on the spot.LawDawg1 said:A year and all you have to do is hire a marginally competent OC to keep that salary (and more) forever because you’d likely never get fired. And then you hire JonDon.
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Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
I don’t know how even the idea of hiring a guy that was quite possibly the worst OC in the country at Penn State was considered.insinceredawg said:
Imagine having a blank check (supposedly) to hire any OC you want and then go dumpster diving through the coaching staff of the worse franchise in the NFL and settling on the fucking assistant to the RB coach to run your offense. This will forever be the most WTF assistant hire in the history of the program and a real AD would have vetoed it on the spot.LawDawg1 said:A year and all you have to do is hire a marginally competent OC to keep that salary (and more) forever because you’d likely never get fired. And then you hire JonDon.
Somehow I thought we would be decent this year. At least a notch above last year. -
black coaches always take over downtrodden teams
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This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
I know you’re being sarcastic. But the Jaguars are an FCS team.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
JonDon supports my case, in a sense, just on the opposite end of the success spectrum.TTJ said:
I know you’re being sarcastic. But the Jaguars are an FCS team.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
I like this idea. But it still is a crapshoot. Troy Taylor sucked at Utah and beau baldwin sucked at cal. That said hiring a known crappy oc that had given up on his career to the point where he was an asst to the running backs coach is beyond embarrassing.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
What makes you think we will fire DonJon to be able to botch a new hire?RoadDawg55 said:
. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me. -
Solid logic behind this but I don’t see any way an up and comer like Hartline goes to a coach like lake who is likely in a make it or break it type season. Maybe if lake has a dominant defense and things were trending up. That’s not the case though.RoadDawg55 said:
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.RoadDawg55 said:
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
It wouldn’t be lateral. Hartline is their WR coach.DerekJohnson said:
Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.RoadDawg55 said:
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
Yeah but stillCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It wouldn’t be lateral. Hartline is their WR coach.DerekJohnson said:
Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.RoadDawg55 said:
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
We wouldn’t want him unless he was the assistant to the WR coach.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It wouldn’t be lateral. Hartline is their WR coach.DerekJohnson said:
Ohio State is not going to let Hartline make a lateral move to a soft Pac-12 team without offering to match the salary. But I do like your line of thinking.RoadDawg55 said:
It really is that easy. I don’t you have to necessarily have the QB guru coordinate the offense, but you need a guy that has a history of developing QB’s. Donovan has never developed a QB. Christian Hackenberg went from having a good freshman year to being utter dogshit under Donovan. He was probably overrated all along, but Donovan did a terrible job. It’s the most important position in football.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
Btw, I would love UW to hire Brian Hartline from Ohio State as OC and bring Urban’s son in law in as the QB coach. Maybe he would bring a different QB coach in. Hartline is an Ohio State guy, but the UW OC job would be a jump starter to a head coaching job if the coordinator came in and made the offense legit. He might not come, but for around a million I think he would at least strongly consider it. He only makes $550,000 now. The guy is charismatic, commands respect from his playing and coaching days and is a beast recruiter.
Hartline and Corey Dennis would help recruiting (Ohio State recruits nationally and Hartline pulled in Gee and Egbuka), they are young and hip, and they know what a good offense looks like because they are actually part of a coaching staff that has a great offense every year. Hartline would very likely make it so the talented young WR’s stay. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen. -
I don’t know that you hire a position coach to coordinate unless you’re ABSOLUTELY sure about it, and there it almost has to be an internal move.
Taking a guy who won’t be learning on the job at a P5 seems like the safer play. Petersen and Lubick are outliers for the most part. -
Donovan will get fired.LawDawg1 said:
What makes you think we will fire DonJon to be able to botch a new hire?RoadDawg55 said:
. I think it’s over 50% that McMilland and/or Odunze bolt if we botch the OC hire. Just a name that wouldn’t piss me off if we made it happen.chuck said:
This is what I've been calling for since RN was fired. Hire guys who are doing something cool and kicking ass at a lower level FBS or FCS school. They'll do that wherever they go in most cases. Winners win according to what I've read here.thechatch said:Lotta guys at the FCS level that are tearing it up with innovative, forward thinking concepts he could have plucked easily.
The fact that Ian Shoemaker is still at EWU fucking baffles me.
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I’ll take it over a shitty or mediocre OC. The best OC hire ever was Joe Brady.thechatch said:I don’t know that you hire a position coach to coordinate unless you’re ABSOLUTELY sure about it, and there it almost has to be an internal move.
Taking a guy who won’t be learning on the job at a P5 seems like the safer play. Petersen and Lubick are outliers for the most part.
At minimum, Hartline would recruit better than any coach we have, and he seems like a smart guy to me. We need a QB and WR friendly offense. Hartline and a QB coach would be a good hire IMO. It could very possibly suck, but it would have high upside. -
It's funny how we have a 5* QB and 2 highly sought after 4* receivers who are retweeting stuff demanding that our OC is fired.RoadDawg55 said:
I’ll take it over a shitty or mediocre OC. The best OC hire ever was Joe Brady.thechatch said:I don’t know that you hire a position coach to coordinate unless you’re ABSOLUTELY sure about it, and there it almost has to be an internal move.
Taking a guy who won’t be learning on the job at a P5 seems like the safer play. Petersen and Lubick are outliers for the most part.
At minimum, Hartline would recruit better than any coach we have, and he seems like a smart guy to me. We need a QB and WR friendly offense. Hartline and a QB coach would be a good hire IMO. It could very possibly suck, but it would have high upside.
These dumb fuck coaches are such control freaks that the thought of an interception has them completely upside down.
It's totally acceptable though when a rb fumbles on your 20 to lose the game though. That's different. -
So they think Huard would do worse than 7 TDS and 6 INTs?haie said:
It's funny how we have a 5* QB and 2 highly sought after 4* receivers who are retweeting stuff demanding that our OC is fired.RoadDawg55 said:
I’ll take it over a shitty or mediocre OC. The best OC hire ever was Joe Brady.thechatch said:I don’t know that you hire a position coach to coordinate unless you’re ABSOLUTELY sure about it, and there it almost has to be an internal move.
Taking a guy who won’t be learning on the job at a P5 seems like the safer play. Petersen and Lubick are outliers for the most part.
At minimum, Hartline would recruit better than any coach we have, and he seems like a smart guy to me. We need a QB and WR friendly offense. Hartline and a QB coach would be a good hire IMO. It could very possibly suck, but it would have high upside.
These dumb fuck coaches are such control freaks that the thought of an interception has them completely upside down.
It's totally acceptable though when a rb fumbles on your 20 to lose the game though. That's different.
