Which group of people did more damage to our country?
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I'm not going to disagree. The President has significant influence, but some things are out of their control.hardhat said:
Iron rule of economic projection is that when it's the opposite team, the president is always at fault for the economy, but when it's your team, then it's a market economy. Also works the opposite way. Thanks for playing.HustlinOwl said:
He allowed Lehman Bros to fail and could have stopped that. Not completely sure how much that would change history, but it was a significant and preventable incident.SFGbob said:
Want to see a Kunt run and hide? Tell us what Bush did to crater the economy Kobe? Say goodbye to Kobe the Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with a racist reality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
Let's see if China learned something from us or not.
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This person is probably related to HH. He's ugly too!
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The economy was melting down because of the feds (dems and RINOs) interference in the housing market with the CRA mandate on US lending institutions to make loans to poor credit risk borrowers and then Fannie Mae buying toxic mortgages and establishing a fake value for subprime mortgages. Lehman, supposedly one of the "smartest people in the room" was left holding the bag when everyone decided to leave the room. They had invested up to their eyeballs on high risk housing derivatives for the supposed above market value return.SFGbob said:HustlinOwl said:
He allowed Lehman Bros to fail and could have stopped that. Not completely sure how much that would change history, but it was a significant and preventable incident.SFGbob said:
Want to see a Kunt run and hide? Tell us what Bush did to crater the economy Kobe? Say goodbye to Kobe the Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with a racist reality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
Economy was already melting down, that's why Lehman Bros was failing. So Owl says Bush should have done even more to bail out Wall Street.
I'll agree that Bush was an idiot, but even he tried to reign in Fannie Mae. Still, a moron looks and sees that homeowners have a much lower rate of criminality than non-homeowners and then concludes that if non-homeowners are given homes, then they won't be criminals.
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You're the shrill partisan who keeps claiming there wasn't any evidence to investigate.HHusky said:
Madam, I simply pointed out that there was a lot of evidence to support looking into the question. I haven't ever said the decision not to charge Daddy was incorrect. You're the shrill partisan who keeps claiming there wasn't any evidence to investigate. That is patently false.SFGbob said:
Yeah, Mueller and Comey were both "Republicans" just like you're a Republican right Dazzler. Do innocent people destroy subpoenaed materials Dazzler? And why is it, that you have zero interest in the very real collusion Hillary did with the Russians? Seems to me that if you were truly interested in investigating Russian collusion you wouldn't be so unwilling to look at the collusion we no for a fact Hillary engaged in.HHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
So tell me again how it works Dazzler. Joe Biden is innocent of any allegations of corruption because he hasn't been charged with anything, but Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russian even though neither he or anyone else was ever charged with it.
You're such a fucking liar Dazzler. My position from the very beginning was investigate all of it. But it became pretty apparent early on that there was no there, there. You're the one who has had zero interest in looking into any of the very real evidence that Hillary paid a foreign national who in turn paid Russians with ties to the Kremlin for dirty on Trump in order to impact the 2016 election.
That was never part of what Mueller even looked at.
