Which group of people did more damage to our country?
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I did.SFGbob said:
Surely I know you cut and pasted that from somewhere. Do you want to lie and claim you didn't Dazzler?HHusky said:
Surely you know those were the findings of the Mueller Report.SFGbob said:Weird how you don't post a link to your cut and paste job Dazzler.
Oh know they shared polling data!!!!! Not the polling data!!!! Weird how despite all the killer evidence no one was ever even charged with any of those "crimes" Dazzler.
They stand in marked contrast to the evidence free ramblings of your Jan. 6th heroes.
So what?
It's an accurate summary. -
Why not provide the link Dazzler? And actually it contains a number of flat-out lies.HHusky said:
I did.SFGbob said:
Surely I know you cut and pasted that from somewhere. Do you want to lie and claim you didn't Dazzler?HHusky said:
Surely you know those were the findings of the Mueller Report.SFGbob said:Weird how you don't post a link to your cut and paste job Dazzler.
Oh know they shared polling data!!!!! Not the polling data!!!! Weird how despite all the killer evidence no one was ever even charged with any of those "crimes" Dazzler.
They stand in marked contrast to the evidence free ramblings of your Jan. 6th heroes.
So what?
It's an accurate summary. -
Point 'em out.SFGbob said:
Why not provide the link Dazzler? And actually it contains a number of flat-out lies.HHusky said:
I did.SFGbob said:
Surely I know you cut and pasted that from somewhere. Do you want to lie and claim you didn't Dazzler?HHusky said:
Surely you know those were the findings of the Mueller Report.SFGbob said:Weird how you don't post a link to your cut and paste job Dazzler.
Oh know they shared polling data!!!!! Not the polling data!!!! Weird how despite all the killer evidence no one was ever even charged with any of those "crimes" Dazzler.
They stand in marked contrast to the evidence free ramblings of your Jan. 6th heroes.
So what?
It's an accurate summary. -
Now do hillary and Obama! We'll wait.HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
He poses "honest questions" like that.
6 +years of Trump investigations by rabid loony libs have resulted in what charges? Lay 'em out counselor. We'll wait!
I won't wait to call you a shill faggot commie chodler though. -
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.HHusky said:
Point 'em out.SFGbob said:
Why not provide the link Dazzler? And actually it contains a number of flat-out lies.HHusky said:
I did.SFGbob said:
Surely I know you cut and pasted that from somewhere. Do you want to lie and claim you didn't Dazzler?HHusky said:
Surely you know those were the findings of the Mueller Report.SFGbob said:Weird how you don't post a link to your cut and paste job Dazzler.
Oh know they shared polling data!!!!! Not the polling data!!!! Weird how despite all the killer evidence no one was ever even charged with any of those "crimes" Dazzler.
They stand in marked contrast to the evidence free ramblings of your Jan. 6th heroes.
So what?
It's an accurate summary.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016. -
And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine." -
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
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HustlinOwl said:
He allowed Lehman Bros to fail and could have stopped that. Not completely sure how much that would change history, but it was a significant and preventable incident.SFGbob said:
Want to see a Kunt run and hide? Tell us what Bush did to crater the economy Kobe? Say goodbye to Kobe the Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with a racist reality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
Economy was already melting down, that's why Lehman Bros was failing. So Owl says Bush should have done even more to bail out Wall Street. -
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!" -
Wear that tin foil hat QHHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
You had three years of investigation and got shit to show for it
There's more evidence of electoral fraud with no one wanting to look
You fucking traitors tried to bring down an elected government
You should be shot -
There's still time.RaceBannon said:
Wear that tin foil hat QHHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
You had three years of investigation and got shit to show for it
There's more evidence of electoral fraud with no one wanting to look
You fucking traitors tried to bring down an elected government
You should be shot
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Yeah, Mueller and Comey were both "Republicans" just like you're a Republican right Dazzler. Do innocent people destroy subpoenaed materials Dazzler? And why is it, that you have zero interest in the very real collusion Hillary did with the Russians? Seems to me that if you were truly interested in investigating Russian collusion you wouldn't be so unwilling to look at the collusion we no for a fact Hillary engaged in.HHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
So tell me again how it works Dazzler. Joe Biden is innocent of any allegations of corruption because he hasn't been charged with anything, but Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russian even though neither he or anyone else was ever charged with it. -
Madam, I simply pointed out that there was a lot of evidence to support looking into the question. I haven't ever said the decision not to charge Daddy was incorrect. You're the shrill partisan who keeps claiming there wasn't any evidence to investigate. That is patently false.SFGbob said:
Yeah, Mueller and Comey were both "Republicans" just like you're a Republican right Dazzler. Do innocent people destroy subpoenaed materials Dazzler? And why is it, that you have zero interest in the very real collusion Hillary did with the Russians? Seems to me that if you were truly interested in investigating Russian collusion you wouldn't be so unwilling to look at the collusion we no for a fact Hillary engaged in.HHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
So tell me again how it works Dazzler. Joe Biden is innocent of any allegations of corruption because he hasn't been charged with anything, but Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russian even though neither he or anyone else was ever charged with it. -
You really believe everything your tv tells you....don't you.HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
He poses "honest questions" like that. -
They made the Mueller Report into a teevee show?Dawgtona said:
You really believe everything your tv tells you....don't you.HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
He poses "honest questions" like that. -
Other than one key distinction used by the stablishment to create division that otherwise wouldn't exist, you make some valid poonts.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with aracistreality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
The corrupt establishment rains money down both sides of the middle-aisle* employing divide-and-concquer strategery.
#oldesttrickinthebook ... It still works
*where mello lives -
"lol"HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
He poses "honest questions" like that.
The Dazzler still believes in russiagate when this came out just 4 days ago. A Biden admin DOJ indictment of a Clinton/dnc opperative at the inception of the entire russiagate affair.
https://www.justice.gov/sco/pr/grand-jury-indicts-dc-attorney-making-false-statements-fbi-2016-regarding-alleged
You might be the dumbest mother fuck of all dumb mother fucks. Congratulations, *cough* Counselor *cough* -
Primetime MSNBC/CNN for months.HHusky said:
They made the Mueller Report into a teevee show?Dawgtona said:
You really believe everything your tv tells you....don't you.HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
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Proud boys is far right to meBendintheriver said:
Never understood what people meant by far right. Is there a group I am not aware of? Is it supposed to be like the people who take the bible literally and live their life like that? Seriously, I have never run into or heard of a "far right" organization like the far left woke crowd, blm, antifa, teachers union, KKK, etc. People talk about quanon but there is no movement by that name, no attempts to organize against the entire country like those on the far left. I can't even tell you the name of one person involved in a so called "far right' group.SFGbob said:
Define your terms. Who makes up the far right and what are the policies they promote that make them shitty?greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
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But this is fake... from a republican operation oh waitpawz said:
"lol"HHusky said:What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
He poses "honest questions" like that.
The Dazzler still believes in russiagate when this came out just 4 days ago. A Biden admin DOJ indictment of a Clinton/dnc opperative at the inception of the entire russiagate affair.
https://www.justice.gov/sco/pr/grand-jury-indicts-dc-attorney-making-false-statements-fbi-2016-regarding-alleged
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I'm not going to disagree. The President has significant influence, but some things are out of their control.hardhat said:
Iron rule of economic projection is that when it's the opposite team, the president is always at fault for the economy, but when it's your team, then it's a market economy. Also works the opposite way. Thanks for playing.HustlinOwl said:
He allowed Lehman Bros to fail and could have stopped that. Not completely sure how much that would change history, but it was a significant and preventable incident.SFGbob said:
Want to see a Kunt run and hide? Tell us what Bush did to crater the economy Kobe? Say goodbye to Kobe the Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with a racist reality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
Let's see if China learned something from us or not.
Evergrande
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html
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This person is probably related to HH. He's ugly too!
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The economy was melting down because of the feds (dems and RINOs) interference in the housing market with the CRA mandate on US lending institutions to make loans to poor credit risk borrowers and then Fannie Mae buying toxic mortgages and establishing a fake value for subprime mortgages. Lehman, supposedly one of the "smartest people in the room" was left holding the bag when everyone decided to leave the room. They had invested up to their eyeballs on high risk housing derivatives for the supposed above market value return.SFGbob said:HustlinOwl said:
He allowed Lehman Bros to fail and could have stopped that. Not completely sure how much that would change history, but it was a significant and preventable incident.SFGbob said:
Want to see a Kunt run and hide? Tell us what Bush did to crater the economy Kobe? Say goodbye to Kobe the Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. I mean, we had moderate George W Bush who had 9/11 happen on his watch. Who lied us into a war with Iraq and started a 20 year unwinnable war with Afghanistan. Oh and then cratered the economy.greenblood said:The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.
Then we had king of the liberals, who promised Hope and Change. And then he didn’t close Guantanamo, didn’t end the war in Afghanistan, didn’t deliver the public option, dropped more bombs than Bush, oh and he bombed a children’s hospital.
In fact he was so terrible that America chose to not elect a former senator and Secretary of State whose entire platform was “I’ll be just like Obama” instead going with a racist reality tv show host.
Tell me more about how bad the far right and left are though.
Economy was already melting down, that's why Lehman Bros was failing. So Owl says Bush should have done even more to bail out Wall Street.
I'll agree that Bush was an idiot, but even he tried to reign in Fannie Mae. Still, a moron looks and sees that homeowners have a much lower rate of criminality than non-homeowners and then concludes that if non-homeowners are given homes, then they won't be criminals.
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You're the shrill partisan who keeps claiming there wasn't any evidence to investigate.HHusky said:
Madam, I simply pointed out that there was a lot of evidence to support looking into the question. I haven't ever said the decision not to charge Daddy was incorrect. You're the shrill partisan who keeps claiming there wasn't any evidence to investigate. That is patently false.SFGbob said:
Yeah, Mueller and Comey were both "Republicans" just like you're a Republican right Dazzler. Do innocent people destroy subpoenaed materials Dazzler? And why is it, that you have zero interest in the very real collusion Hillary did with the Russians? Seems to me that if you were truly interested in investigating Russian collusion you wouldn't be so unwilling to look at the collusion we no for a fact Hillary engaged in.HHusky said:
Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.SFGbob said:
Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.HHusky said:And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.
"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."
Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?
Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.
No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"
So tell me again how it works Dazzler. Joe Biden is innocent of any allegations of corruption because he hasn't been charged with anything, but Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russian even though neither he or anyone else was ever charged with it.
You're such a fucking liar Dazzler. My position from the very beginning was investigate all of it. But it became pretty apparent early on that there was no there, there. You're the one who has had zero interest in looking into any of the very real evidence that Hillary paid a foreign national who in turn paid Russians with ties to the Kremlin for dirty on Trump in order to impact the 2016 election.
That was never part of what Mueller even looked at.
