Which group of people did more damage to our country?

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.



"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."

Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.

Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?

Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.

Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.

No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"

Wear that tin foil hat Q

You had three years of investigation and got shit to show for it

There's more evidence of electoral fraud with no one wanting to look

You fucking traitors tried to bring down an elected government

You should be shot

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

And none of this is to ignore the efforts to impede the investigation. 'Cuz that's how innocent people behave.



"[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the
Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with
Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the
investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as
violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor
Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador
Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor
during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter
alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who
told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of
thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded
guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project. And in February
2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied
to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications
with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for
Ukraine."

Yes, you'd hate to impede a politically motivated investigation that is relying on bogus information to securely illegally obtained FISA warrants.

Do innocent people destroy their subpoenaed Blackberries with hammers and bleach bit their computers Dazzler? Do innocent people plant knowingly false stories in the press in order to smear their political opponents Dazzler?

Again, why no charges dealing with collusion with the Russians Dazzler? You have all that killer evidence and all you've got is few people entrapped by supposed "lies" they told to corrupt FBI members.

Republican deputy attorney general, nominated by Republican President, appoints Republican to investigate alleged wrongdoing. Sounds grim.

No charges? Insufficient admissible evidence to secure a conviction. Or, as partisan whores like yourself label it, "Exoneration!"

Yeah, Mueller and Comey were both "Republicans" just like you're a Republican right Dazzler. Do innocent people destroy subpoenaed materials Dazzler? And why is it, that you have zero interest in the very real collusion Hillary did with the Russians? Seems to me that if you were truly interested in investigating Russian collusion you wouldn't be so unwilling to look at the collusion we no for a fact Hillary engaged in.

So tell me again how it works Dazzler. Joe Biden is innocent of any allegations of corruption because he hasn't been charged with anything, but Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russian even though neither he or anyone else was ever charged with it.

Dawgtona said:

HHusky said:

What blob baldly calls the collusion "fraud" was supported by at least these major findings:

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

He poses "honest questions" like that.

You really believe everything your tv tells you....don't you.

Bendintheriver said:

SFGbob said:

greenblood said:

The far right are very shitty, but the far left are the most worthless people on Earth. Screw it, I’m going group the far right and the far left together. They are equally horrible.

Define your terms. Who makes up the far right and what are the policies they promote that make them shitty?

Never understood what people meant by far right. Is there a group I am not aware of? Is it supposed to be like the people who take the bible literally and live their life like that? Seriously, I have never run into or heard of a "far right" organization like the far left woke crowd, blm, antifa, teachers union, KKK, etc. People talk about quanon but there is no movement by that name, no attempts to organize against the entire country like those on the far left. I can't even tell you the name of one person involved in a so called "far right' group.