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How many wins does Jimmy need?

This is my guess on what Cohen does based on this year's record. This is not what I'd do if I were the AD so don't twist. I would've canned his ass midway through the 4th quarter.

8+ wins - Jimmy stays with the staff intact
6 to 7 wins - Jimmy stays but JonDon and maybe a couple other coaches gone
3 to 5 wins - Jimmy stays but a major staff overhaul
0 to 2 wins - Jimmy era is over

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465

    Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

    Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

    You have to flush the whole staff.

    Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

    but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    Jimmy doesn't get fired after this year no matter what. JonDone should
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,289 Founders Club

    Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

    Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

    You have to flush the whole staff.

    Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

    but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game
    Who is the dipshit who hired him?
    It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

    The only reasons I could come up with are
    -Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
    -Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
    -Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it
    He should've kept Hamdan around if this was his plan.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

    Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

    You have to flush the whole staff.

    Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

    but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game
    Who is the dipshit who hired him?
    It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

    The only reasons I could come up with are
    -Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
    -Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
    -Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it
    I'm going with door #2. He's done too much unorthodox shit for it to not be intentional. Kwat bolting and recruits shying away were the first signs that the unorthodox shit was a big swing and a miss. And now everyone's caught up to speed.
    I tend to agree. His approach to hiring and recruiting gives off a "I'm so smart I can win with any assistant and any player" energy. The question now is did the Montana loss humble him at all?
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    Jimmy has a long leash. Needs 3+ so long as most of the losses aren't complete blowouts. Jon Don will get canned next time offense plays like shit so probably this week after Michigan. Junior fills in as interim OC. Rebuilding and incremental improvement becomes the new script.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

    If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

    I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

    If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

    I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

    How could you not be sure?
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    Jimmy will be forced to do some staff restructuring if he wins less than 6 games.

    That is all.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

    If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

    I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

    How could you not be sure?
    Because there’s implications either way that influence the other

  • JackDonakey
    JackDonakey Member Posts: 43
    I think we have 0 to 2 wins but Jimmy and his staff stick around to do it again next year. Then he gets fired.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527

    Jimmy doesn't strike me as a hate to lose guy

    At UW the coach has to pressure himself because Jenni won't.

    He hates that losing gets in the way of a good nights sleep.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    He should be fired yesterday
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,619 Standard Supporter
    There are plenty of ex players and Doog morons defending him. Personally I think 3-9 might do it. He can't fall back on past successes much.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Identity politics got the last AD that used them fired
  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    Tequilla said:

    To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

    If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

    I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

    The Presbo ain’t firing Jen. She likes her tits as much as we do
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

    If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

    I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

    This is where I'm at. If the gate just crashes it will force change. If people keep going to this shitfest then you get what you pay for. Literally.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,113 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    Win the dogshit Pac-12 or GTFO in my opinion. I think at least all assistants need to get cleared out unless they win the Pac-12.

    The stands are going to be barren and I hope that is enough to find a way to make a major change. Will there be more Oregon fans than Husky fans there in November? This was not the year to fuck up.

    The hardened fuckers in the region who waste their lives on Husky football who haven't died or gotten distracted/incarcerated yet who turned out Saturday are hurting and sick of supporting such a shit show. How many of them are coming to Arkansas State (I'm not and part of the reason I moved back to WA is fucking Husky football) or the yearly Cal embarrassment?
  • El_K
    El_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,490 Swaye's Wigwam
    I will answer with 10 wins. He has one more loss and it cannot be to Michigan,Arkansas St, Oregon,WSU or Arizona.
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    El_K said:

    I will answer with 10 wins. He has one more loss and it cannot be to Michigan,Arkansas St, Oregon,WSU or Arizona.

    No way this team hangs with UCLA or ASU
  • PatsDoog
    PatsDoog Member Posts: 159
    No shot Jimmy is gone barring going winless and a mass exodus of players into the transfer portal imo. Cohen's skin is on the line with Lake after bungling the men's basketball hire and admitting Lake didn't work out is an indictment on her ability to her higher ups.

    This is also working under the assumption Cauce gives a singular shit about anything sports related until it hurts her wallet. Wouldn't shock me to see everyone involved pretend nothing is wrong and let Lake ride out his contract with no pushback.