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Winners win. 30 years later.


https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/pearl-jams-stone-gossard-and-jeff-ament-reminisce-on-ten-ahead-of-30th-anniversary/


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  • NoWarningJustDawg
    NoWarningJustDawg Member Posts: 1,000
    I want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt on sarcasm, but he's a Mariners fan, so I dunno.




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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Are we? Calling Pearl Jam winners now?
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,255 Founders Club
    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.
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  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,624
    How many bands can say they put out a greatest hits album for their first album? I’m sure there are a few, but the list is short, IMO
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    I’d say 1 all timer, plus three pretty good ones
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    YellowSnow said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    I’d say 1 all timer, plus three pretty good ones
    Three feels like a stretch. One all timer and one or two other worthwhile entries.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    I’d say 1 all timer, plus three pretty good ones
    Three feels like a stretch. One all timer and one or two other worthwhile entries.
    I think No Code is a “good” but not “great” album.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015
    YellowSnow said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    How many bands can say they put out a greatest hits album for their first album? I’m sure there are a few, but the list is short, IMO

    Boston
    The Cars
    Sex Pistols
    Guns and Roses
    VanHalen

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    PurpleThrobber said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    How many bands can say they put out a greatest hits album for their first album? I’m sure there are a few, but the list is short, IMO

    Boston
    The Cars
    Sex Pistols
    Guns and Roses
    VanHalen

    I think this is more in the context of bands that had greatest level debuts and then were kinda meh after that. Certainly not the case with VH.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015
    YellowSnow said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    How many bands can say they put out a greatest hits album for their first album? I’m sure there are a few, but the list is short, IMO

    Boston
    The Cars
    Sex Pistols
    Guns and Roses
    VanHalen

    I think this is more in the context of bands that had greatest level debuts and then were kinda meh after that. Certainly not the case with VH.
    Not technically gifted writing in the original question.

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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    edited August 2021
    YellowSnow said:

    Are we? Calling Pearl Jam winners now?

    @YellowSnow

    30 years later and they sell out arenas. They headline major music festivals. Night after night after fucking night. All over the world.

    If that's not winning, I don't know what is.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    Why will that make me cringe?

    I like all of them better than Vedder.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,255 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    disagree
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    Why will that make me cringe?

    I like all of them better than Vedder.
    #sarkasm
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    disagree
    Sad.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    Why will that make me cringe?

    I like all of them better than Vedder.
    #sarkasm
    it's hard
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,165 Standard Supporter
    I went to a sports event, can't remember which, and the Pearl Jam guitarist played the national anthem. Not technically gifted guitar playing.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Are we? Calling Pearl Jam winners now?

    @YellowSnow

    30 years later and they sell out arenas. They headline major music festivals. Night after night after fucking night. All over the world.

    If that's not winning, I don't know what is.
    I'm not saying Pearl Jam haven't had a long successful career. Obviously they have a very devoted fan base.

    I just don't think their body of work in terms of a string of all time classic LPs puts them in the GOAT conversation. As I've said before, Ten is Top 5 album of the early 90s. VS, Vitalogy, and No Code are all good (not great) albums. After that I'm pretty much meh on PJ.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,255 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    pawz said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    They had one great, epic album and then lived off of it for 30 years. If we're being truthful.

    No. No one lives off one album for 30 years.

    They continued to add to their repertoire along the way.

    There are no two concerts the same; the set list is never the same.

    This will make @dnc cringe, but McCready's solos are greater than anything Vedder does vocally imo.


    It just seems to get better and better and better.



    disagree
    Sad.
    SAD! Shout it from the rooftops
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Swaye said:

    Pearl Jam is a decent band. For chicks.

    I have them in dead last of the Big 4 from Seattle and it isn't close.

    Soundgarden
    AiC
    Nirvana (this is some sort of weird three way tie depending on the day)






    Pearl Jam

    Anyone who disagrees is gay, which is okay, just gay.

    I'd probably put AiC first but otherwise this is my list exactly.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    Pearl Jam is a decent band. For chicks.

    I have them in dead last of the Big 4 from Seattle and it isn't close.

    Soundgarden
    AiC
    Nirvana (this is some sort of weird three way tie depending on the day)






    Pearl Jam

    Anyone who disagrees is gay, which is okay, just gay.

    I'd probably put AiC first but otherwise this is my list exactly.
    This is why we had a 6 year gay relationship before you decided you liked the wimenz.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Swaye said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    Pearl Jam is a decent band. For chicks.

    I have them in dead last of the Big 4 from Seattle and it isn't close.

    Soundgarden
    AiC
    Nirvana (this is some sort of weird three way tie depending on the day)






    Pearl Jam

    Anyone who disagrees is gay, which is okay, just gay.

    I'd probably put AiC first but otherwise this is my list exactly.
    This is why we had a 6 year gay relationship before you decided you liked the wimenz.

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    Pearl Jam is a decent band. For chicks.

    I have them in dead last of the Big 4 from Seattle and it isn't close.

    Soundgarden
    AiC
    Nirvana (this is some sort of weird three way tie depending on the day)






    Pearl Jam

    Anyone who disagrees is gay, which is okay, just gay.

    I'd probably put AiC first but otherwise this is my list exactly.
    This is why we had a 6 year gay relationship before you decided you liked the wimenz.


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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    1to392831weretaken said:

    Peak Seattle grunge happened while I was in high school, so all those bands can eat a dick as far as I'm concerned. Bunch of white, suburban whiny bitches whining about their problems in nasally tones aside, those assholes ruined every single girl I might have otherwise wanted to see naked. In middle school, when girls wouldn't let you touch them, it was all about getting sent home for Daisy Dukes and crop tops. High school? "Check out how long my armpit and leg hair has gotten!" "Look at me 'not conforming' and 'not caring' by wearing the same goddamned inch-thick flannel shirt and baggy pants and wool hat every other girl is wearing!" "You want me to touch your penis? But they need me in this hacky sack circle..."

    My little brother went to school with a bunch of wannabe Brittanys who would just accidentally trip and fall vagina-first onto his dick. Me? I went to high school with wannabe Darias because of those fucks Soundgarden, AiC, Nirvana, etc. Fuck. Those. Guys.

    I did my part to spread the gospel of Shaolin shadowboxing and the Wu-Tang sword style in those dark tims. Not every hero wears a cape.

    I laughed because I hit high school just as every teen girl wanted to be Gloria Steinem and they read MS Magazine and wanted to be treated as a person not a sex object.

    Had to rewrite the playbook on the fly.

    No more Steve McQueen it was Alan Alda time
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