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Taliban enter Kabul as government on brink of collapse
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They weren't released until the Taliban took over the country you moronHHusky said:
I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.Tequilla said:
I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spadeHHusky said:
don't sugar coat itTequilla said:
We know you aren’tHHusky said:
You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?trublue said:HHusky said:
The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.Goduckies said:
That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...HHusky said:
Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?Goduckies said:
Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matterHHusky said:
The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.trublue said:I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.
He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.
Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.
Biden could have done the same thing.
Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.
Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.
Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.
Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.
I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.HHusky said:
Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.Fenderbender123 said:
So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.HHusky said:
As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.Goduckies said:
Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turboHHusky said:
You're confused again. What else is new?trublue said:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556
Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.
This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.
But, but, but Trump.
Gawd, you’re stupid.
Are you ever right on anything?
You and Joe have a lot in common.
Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.
Daddy only agreed to it.
Own it, legal beagle.
Winning another argument as usual.
what are you trying to say?
There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.
Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good. -
Too busy spying on and undermining the Trump Admin.HHusky said:
I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.trublue said:
I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.HHusky said:
As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balancedtrublue said:But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.
$2T spent
352,000 Afghan security forces trained
2,000 Americans KIA
The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.
The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.
Failure of intelligence? -
Note as well that Biden is the one who has spent his entire life in Government, including 8 years as a VP. He is the one who claimed that he knew how to run things and get things done on account of all of his years of government experience. The Federal bureaucracy isn't working against and undermining Biden like they were against Trump and yet Biden still fucks this thing up beyond all recognition.RaceBannon said:
My intelligenceHHusky said:
Really? You had an intelligence source saying the Taliban will overrun the country in a matter of hours?RaceBannon said:
You could have read that hereHHusky said:
If intelligence was saying the Afghan forces will fold like a cheap card table in a matter of minutes, let's hear about it.trublue said:
How?HHusky said:
I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.trublue said:
I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.HHusky said:
As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balancedtrublue said:But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.
$2T spent
352,000 Afghan security forces trained
2,000 Americans KIA
The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.
The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.
Failure of intelligence?
James Clapper, former CIA Director under Obama, denied on CNN today that it was a failure of intelligence.
Biden trying to blame everyone and everyone telling Biden to fuck off
At least your focused on the issue now
Not that we left but how we left
100 percent Biden fuck up -
wrongGoduckies said:
They weren't released until the Taliban took over the country you moronHHusky said:
I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.Tequilla said:
I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spadeHHusky said:
don't sugar coat itTequilla said:
We know you aren’tHHusky said:
You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?trublue said:HHusky said:
The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.Goduckies said:
That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...HHusky said:
Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?Goduckies said:
Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matterHHusky said:
The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.trublue said:I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.
He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.
Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.
Biden could have done the same thing.
Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.
Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.
Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.
Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.
I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.HHusky said:
Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.Fenderbender123 said:
So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.HHusky said:
As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.Goduckies said:
Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turboHHusky said:
You're confused again. What else is new?trublue said:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556
Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.
This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.
But, but, but Trump.
Gawd, you’re stupid.
Are you ever right on anything?
You and Joe have a lot in common.
Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.
Daddy only agreed to it.
Own it, legal beagle.
Winning another argument as usual.
what are you trying to say?
There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.
Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban-idUSKCN25507I
AUGUST 8, 2020
Under election-year pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump for a deal allowing him to bring home American troops, the country’s grand assembly, or Loya Jirga, on Sunday approved the release.
The Taliban militant had demanded the release of the 400, the last batch among 5,000 prisoners to be freed, as a condition to join peace talks. -
Only meet with conditions on the ground you doltHHusky said:
There was a date certain when Daddy left office too.DerekJohnson said:
When you announce four months ahead of time exactly when you're leaving you give the enemy four months to plan and prepare.RaceBannon said: -
Reagan emptied the mental hospitals
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There were still other prisoners these were mainly low level guys. The high level ones just got released because of this horrible withdrawalHHusky said:
wrongGoduckies said:
They weren't released until the Taliban took over the country you moronHHusky said:
I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.Tequilla said:
I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spadeHHusky said:
don't sugar coat itTequilla said:
We know you aren’tHHusky said:
You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?trublue said:HHusky said:
The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.Goduckies said:
That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...HHusky said:
Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?Goduckies said:
Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matterHHusky said:
The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.trublue said:I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.
He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.
Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.
Biden could have done the same thing.
Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.
Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.
Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.
Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.
I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.HHusky said:
Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.Fenderbender123 said:
So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.HHusky said:
As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.Goduckies said:
Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turboHHusky said:
You're confused again. What else is new?trublue said:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556
Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.
This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.
But, but, but Trump.
Gawd, you’re stupid.
Are you ever right on anything?
You and Joe have a lot in common.
Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.
Daddy only agreed to it.
Own it, legal beagle.
Winning another argument as usual.
what are you trying to say?
There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.
Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban-idUSKCN25507I
AUGUST 8, 2020
Under election-year pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump for a deal allowing him to bring home American troops, the country’s grand assembly, or Loya Jirga, on Sunday approved the release.
The Taliban militant had demanded the release of the 400, the last batch among 5,000 prisoners to be freed, as a condition to join peace talks.
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Oh brother.Goduckies said:
There were still other prisoners these were mainly low level guys. The high level ones just got released because of this horrible withdrawalHHusky said:
wrongGoduckies said:
They weren't released until the Taliban took over the country you moronHHusky said:
I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.Tequilla said:
I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spadeHHusky said:
don't sugar coat itTequilla said:
We know you aren’tHHusky said:
You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?trublue said:HHusky said:
The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.Goduckies said:
That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...HHusky said:
Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?Goduckies said:
Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matterHHusky said:
The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.trublue said:I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.
He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.
Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.
Biden could have done the same thing.
Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.
Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.
Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.
Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.
I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.HHusky said:
Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.Fenderbender123 said:
So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.HHusky said:
As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.Goduckies said:
Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turboHHusky said:
You're confused again. What else is new?trublue said:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556
Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.
This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.
But, but, but Trump.
Gawd, you’re stupid.
Are you ever right on anything?
You and Joe have a lot in common.
Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.
Daddy only agreed to it.
Own it, legal beagle.
Winning another argument as usual.
what are you trying to say?
There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.
Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban-idUSKCN25507I
AUGUST 8, 2020
Under election-year pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump for a deal allowing him to bring home American troops, the country’s grand assembly, or Loya Jirga, on Sunday approved the release.
The Taliban militant had demanded the release of the 400, the last batch among 5,000 prisoners to be freed, as a condition to join peace talks.
But but but but -
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It's not but but but, its the facts you jackass, the high level guys were still in prison until it was overrunHHusky said:
Oh brother.Goduckies said:
There were still other prisoners these were mainly low level guys. The high level ones just got released because of this horrible withdrawalHHusky said:
wrongGoduckies said:
They weren't released until the Taliban took over the country you moronHHusky said:
I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.Tequilla said:
I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spadeHHusky said:
don't sugar coat itTequilla said:
We know you aren’tHHusky said:
You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?trublue said:HHusky said:
The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.Goduckies said:
That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...HHusky said:
Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?Goduckies said:
Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matterHHusky said:
The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.trublue said:I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.
He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.
Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.
Biden could have done the same thing.
Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.
Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.
Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.
Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.
I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.HHusky said:
Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.Fenderbender123 said:
So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.HHusky said:
As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.Goduckies said:
Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turboHHusky said:
You're confused again. What else is new?trublue said:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556
Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.
This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.
But, but, but Trump.
Gawd, you’re stupid.
Are you ever right on anything?
You and Joe have a lot in common.
Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.
Daddy only agreed to it.
Own it, legal beagle.
Winning another argument as usual.
what are you trying to say?
There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.
Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban-idUSKCN25507I
AUGUST 8, 2020
Under election-year pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump for a deal allowing him to bring home American troops, the country’s grand assembly, or Loya Jirga, on Sunday approved the release.
The Taliban militant had demanded the release of the 400, the last batch among 5,000 prisoners to be freed, as a condition to join peace talks.
But but but but
https://notthebee.com/article/the-taliban-just-took-over-bagram-air-force-base-and-released-thousand-of-prisoners
