Ben Roberts, 2022 4* DT, (East HS), UT (probably oreGONE)
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13th would suckinsinceredawg said:
Adding in Conerly and replacing TJ Hall with Jahlil Florence brings the class score up to 213 pts and 13th in the country. That's right within the range of CP's last few classes and none of the names are completely unrealistic for UW to pull. Too bad Jimmy and his staff suck ass at recruiting.WoolleyDoog said:
Landing those names and having a reasonable, edge of the Top 20 class if you can also close Conerly and at least one high 4 star (a guy like Kani) you maybe shouldn't seems so reasonable but now seems impossible. Hell, I think Willingham and staff could have pulled it off and Sark easily. This is getting out of control.insinceredawg said:
247 has the class calculator feature where you can do thisHireBRoy said:Anyone know where we would be in the rankings if we kept mells, jones, tafiti, and morrison?
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2022-Football/Commits/Preview/
I don't think we would've offered Roberts if Mells didn't decommit. But if I add Jones, Tafiti, Morrison, and Nabou to the class the score increases to 195. That would put UW at 24th nationally and 2nd in the Pac 12.
I expect better than what Petersen did -
Decided to use my decoding abilities to read what's really going on here:
Talked to people close to his recruitment and was told that the Husky coaches have been in contact and that there's nothing to worry about.
Talked to literally no one from his camp. Made this up to show off my imaginary access.
One thing that should help you guys realize how naive some of these kids can be, he didn't understand why Husky fans were so up in arms about him posing in an Oregon uniform or that he posted it on instagram. "He was just having fun" and "he doesn't understand the hate between the two schools"..."he doesn't get it".
Ben doesn't give a shit about any of this or you. His commitment is a verbal and will go to the highest bidder. Our beloved program doesn't pay players and does things the 'right way', so he's probably gone.
Take it for what it's worth. I have a feeling there will be some drama over the next five months of his recruitment, so it'll be worth watching.
My opinion means dog shit. We? suck at recruiting. This is how I earn a living, supposedly.
Oregon is definitely putting the pressure on him though. Washington spoke to him last night for a while and I was told "all is well".
Oregon calls and texts him all the time, and Jimmy is too busy to reach out, so Bob Gregory sent a telegram and said if you're still committed do not respond.
Wanted to give you guys what info I have...that's it for now...
I had to respond before the site went ballistic as it appears the coaching staff has carbon monoxide poisoning, so I made up some things and added some ellipses so you'll come back next month for another $12.95. -
What's funny is that he thinks the way he hedges his bets, says yes, no and maybe to everything, and reaches no conclusion whatsoever actually escapes the readers' attention.LB_33 said:Decided to use my decoding abilities to read what's really going on here:
Talked to people close to his recruitment and was told that the Husky coaches have been in contact and that there's nothing to worry about.
Talked to literally no one from his camp. Made this up to show off my imaginary access.
One thing that should help you guys realize how naive some of these kids can be, he didn't understand why Husky fans were so up in arms about him posing in an Oregon uniform or that he posted it on instagram. "He was just having fun" and "he doesn't understand the hate between the two schools"..."he doesn't get it".
Ben doesn't give a shit about any of this or you. His commitment is a verbal and will go to the highest bidder. Our beloved program doesn't pay players and does things the 'right way', so he's probably gone.
Take it for what it's worth. I have a feeling there will be some drama over the next five months of his recruitment, so it'll be worth watching.
My opinion means dog shit. We? suck at recruiting. This is how I earn a living, supposedly.
Oregon is definitely putting the pressure on him though. Washington spoke to him last night for a while and I was told "all is well".
Oregon calls and texts him all the time, and Jimmy is too busy to reach out, so Bob Gregory sent a telegram and said if you're still committed do not respond.
Wanted to give you guys what info I have...that's it for now...
I had to respond before the site went ballistic as it appears the coaching staff has carbon monoxide poisoning, so I made up some things and added some ellipses so you'll come back next month for another $12.95.
And it actually works. Technically gifted writing, I guess. Maybe I'm the dumb one for thinking differently. -
I think the only way to really reverse the trend is to beat Michigan, beat Oregon and have a 10+ plus win season. If UW has a mediocre season it’s pretty clear we are fucked in recruiting and probably just fucked in general until they decide to actually get in the recruiting game and pay fucking players like everyone else.
Hand up I thought Jimmy would be a monster recruiter that’s on me. Fuck the rest of this staff too. -
It's the chickenshit way to be an analyst. You never actually have an opinion, and then you can say you were right every time. "I warned you all that there will be drama" is what happens when he decommits, and "I told you there was nothing to worry about" when he signs. The dawgman morons never give you their gut feeling or actual intel on anything, rather they make up something that counts as content and allows the doogers to continue paying $12.95 and increasing page views. When the poasters ask critical questions, they're slapped before the discontent can take hold.chuck said:
What's funny is that he thinks the way he hedges his bets, says yes, no and maybe to everything, and reaches no conclusion whatsoever actually escapes the readers' attention.LB_33 said:Decided to use my decoding abilities to read what's really going on here:
Talked to people close to his recruitment and was told that the Husky coaches have been in contact and that there's nothing to worry about.
Talked to literally no one from his camp. Made this up to show off my imaginary access.
One thing that should help you guys realize how naive some of these kids can be, he didn't understand why Husky fans were so up in arms about him posing in an Oregon uniform or that he posted it on instagram. "He was just having fun" and "he doesn't understand the hate between the two schools"..."he doesn't get it".
Ben doesn't give a shit about any of this or you. His commitment is a verbal and will go to the highest bidder. Our beloved program doesn't pay players and does things the 'right way', so he's probably gone.
Take it for what it's worth. I have a feeling there will be some drama over the next five months of his recruitment, so it'll be worth watching.
My opinion means dog shit. We? suck at recruiting. This is how I earn a living, supposedly.
Oregon is definitely putting the pressure on him though. Washington spoke to him last night for a while and I was told "all is well".
Oregon calls and texts him all the time, and Jimmy is too busy to reach out, so Bob Gregory sent a telegram and said if you're still committed do not respond.
Wanted to give you guys what info I have...that's it for now...
I had to respond before the site went ballistic as it appears the coaching staff has carbon monoxide poisoning, so I made up some things and added some ellipses so you'll come back next month for another $12.95.
And it actually works. Technically gifted writing, I guess. Maybe I'm the dumb one for thinking differently.
Here's what it should have said: "The optics on this look bad, very bad, and we're losing momentum. Jimmy and team should be all over him as he's a guy they can't afford to lose, especially to Oregon. With the way recruiting has gone the last two years, I'm not overly optimistic at the moment with Oregon putting the full court pressure on him. I hate to say that Roberts matters more than the other prospects that spurned UW, but this is where Jimmy needs to take a stand and show us why we all thought recruiting would be better compared to Pete. At this point, I'd put it 70/30 he decommits." -
In their defense way too much shit gets thrown at "writers" when their predictions don't come true. I've seen the doogs get really hostile toward them for guessing wrong. There is a contingent of people like that here too.LB_33 said:
It's the chickenshit way to be an analyst. You never actually have an opinion, and then you can say you were right every time. "I warned you all that there will be drama" is what happens when he decommits, and "I told you there was nothing to worry about" when he signs. The dawgman morons never give you their gut feeling or actual intel on anything, rather they make up something that counts as content and allows the doogers to continue paying $12.95 and increasing page views. When the poasters ask critical questions, they're slapped before the discontent can take hold.chuck said:
What's funny is that he thinks the way he hedges his bets, says yes, no and maybe to everything, and reaches no conclusion whatsoever actually escapes the readers' attention.LB_33 said:Decided to use my decoding abilities to read what's really going on here:
Talked to people close to his recruitment and was told that the Husky coaches have been in contact and that there's nothing to worry about.
Talked to literally no one from his camp. Made this up to show off my imaginary access.
One thing that should help you guys realize how naive some of these kids can be, he didn't understand why Husky fans were so up in arms about him posing in an Oregon uniform or that he posted it on instagram. "He was just having fun" and "he doesn't understand the hate between the two schools"..."he doesn't get it".
Ben doesn't give a shit about any of this or you. His commitment is a verbal and will go to the highest bidder. Our beloved program doesn't pay players and does things the 'right way', so he's probably gone.
Take it for what it's worth. I have a feeling there will be some drama over the next five months of his recruitment, so it'll be worth watching.
My opinion means dog shit. We? suck at recruiting. This is how I earn a living, supposedly.
Oregon is definitely putting the pressure on him though. Washington spoke to him last night for a while and I was told "all is well".
Oregon calls and texts him all the time, and Jimmy is too busy to reach out, so Bob Gregory sent a telegram and said if you're still committed do not respond.
Wanted to give you guys what info I have...that's it for now...
I had to respond before the site went ballistic as it appears the coaching staff has carbon monoxide poisoning, so I made up some things and added some ellipses so you'll come back next month for another $12.95.
And it actually works. Technically gifted writing, I guess. Maybe I'm the dumb one for thinking differently.
Here's what it should have said: "The optics on this look bad, very bad, and we're losing momentum. Jimmy and team should be all over him as he's a guy they can't afford to lose, especially to Oregon. With the way recruiting has gone the last two years, I'm not overly optimistic at the moment with Oregon putting the full court pressure on him. I hate to say that Roberts matters more than the other prospects that spurned UW, but this is where Jimmy needs to take a stand and show us why we all thought recruiting would be better compared to Pete. At this point, I'd put it 70/30 he decommits."
Still, that's what they offer and what people pay for. Stick your fat neck out ecktard. Everyone knows you have no inside information, so cough up an earnest read on the situation. At least that's something. -
The Gregory telegram is instant classic shit.
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If you check his likes they’re actually pretty UW friendly.
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Setting up for more drama when he does announce the flipQuietcowskee said:If you check his likes they’re actually pretty UW friendly.
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Did 22 die? RIP 22.insinceredawg said: -
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now. -
You know, that'd probably be the first thing I'd ask for in an interview for a D1 position coach, but what do I know.sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now. -
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick -
Let them start at the small school then. DL recruiting is the most competitive and most challenging out of all the positions because the supply is limited. So naturally, we hire an analyst who has never recruited or led a position group. His resume was being a grad assistant with Florida Atlantic for two years and being a defensive analyst for us for two years.UDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick -
its the entire staff minus huff and malloe..... ive given up on recruiting as long as Lake is head coach. Literally nothing about recruiting has any sign of life...sonics1993 said:
Let them start at the small school then. DL recruiting is the most competitive and most challenging out of all the positions because the supply is limited. So naturally, we hire an analyst who has never recruited or led a position group. His resume was being a grad assistant with Florida Atlantic for two years and being a defensive analyst for us for two years.UDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Hell Gracen Halten was just straight up talking trash during the Florence commitment. It just embarrassing now. -
at what weight do we start calling him jimbo?Maceothecat said:
a fat tub of goo.hardhat said:So here's Oregon's pitch:
Get to be best buds with fat tub of goo and fellow UW decommit Sir Smells
Cash for loser dad
Chance to drive around Eugene and shoot people in the face with bb guns
Get a hug from Mario!
Flex Fridays.
I mean, that sounds pretty good.
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My snarky answer is "wait you bring on a bunch of interns on staff, and then are shocked they get their ass kicked against experienced coaches on the recruiting trail"UDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
But you hit the nail on the head w/ the list of our recruiters who can't or aren't ready yet. Add in KB who I think is par at best, Junior who's groups on field results are at a show me point and that's 80% of your staff who's effectiveness is limited.
If you have SC's/Oregon's/even ASU's staff, having a Kato or Rip, Brown, can be mitigated as the overall group is strong enough to buffer, weather, nuture, teach, help, pick up the slack, etc, but Jimmy has put together a staff who isn't even close enough to do that.
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Them titties are catching up to Cristobal’sHireBRoy said:
at what weight do we start calling him jimbo?Maceothecat said:
a fat tub of goo.hardhat said:So here's Oregon's pitch:
Get to be best buds with fat tub of goo and fellow UW decommit Sir Smells
Cash for loser dad
Chance to drive around Eugene and shoot people in the face with bb guns
Get a hug from Mario!
Flex Fridays.
I mean, that sounds pretty good.
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Exactly why Oregon keeps cucking Jimmy. I haven’t seen recruiting this impotent since WillinghamUDubHusky23 said:
its the entire staff minus huff and malloe..... ive given up on recruiting as long as Lake is head coach. Literally nothing about recruiting has any sign of life...sonics1993 said:
Let them start at the small school then. DL recruiting is the most competitive and most challenging out of all the positions because the supply is limited. So naturally, we hire an analyst who has never recruited or led a position group. His resume was being a grad assistant with Florida Atlantic for two years and being a defensive analyst for us for two years.UDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Hell Gracen Halten was just straight up talking trash during the Florence commitment. It just embarrassing now.
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And Ty would no show meetings with visiting prospects in order to get more time on the golf course.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Exactly why Oregon keeps cucking Jimmy. I haven’t seen recruiting this impotent since WillinghamUDubHusky23 said:
its the entire staff minus huff and malloe..... ive given up on recruiting as long as Lake is head coach. Literally nothing about recruiting has any sign of life...sonics1993 said:
Let them start at the small school then. DL recruiting is the most competitive and most challenging out of all the positions because the supply is limited. So naturally, we hire an analyst who has never recruited or led a position group. His resume was being a grad assistant with Florida Atlantic for two years and being a defensive analyst for us for two years.UDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Hell Gracen Halten was just straight up talking trash during the Florence commitment. It just embarrassing now. -
Right before he morphs in to Jumbo... then inevitably Dumbo Lake when he builds a fence around Spokane Valley recruitsHireBRoy said:
at what weight do we start calling him jimbo?Maceothecat said:
a fat tub of goo.hardhat said:So here's Oregon's pitch:
Get to be best buds with fat tub of goo and fellow UW decommit Sir Smells
Cash for loser dad
Chance to drive around Eugene and shoot people in the face with bb guns
Get a hug from Mario!
Flex Fridays.
I mean, that sounds pretty good.
What does Jimmy have?
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I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
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Donte and the Cal guy that everyone wanted would be better examples.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
In fact, I think both were GAs at UW -
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust. -
And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.UDubHusky23 said:
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust. -
if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough lol jk...sonics1993 said:
And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.UDubHusky23 said:
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.
cheating would at least mean effort lol... what these coaches have done the last two years in recruiting is depressing for a fan -
Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.sonics1993 said:
And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.UDubHusky23 said:
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust. -
Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.TommySQC said:
Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.sonics1993 said:
And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.UDubHusky23 said:
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust. -
The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.sonics1993 said:
Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.TommySQC said:
Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.sonics1993 said:
And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.UDubHusky23 said:
Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.Motrboatnsob said:
I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USCUDubHusky23 said:
not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?sonics1993 said:
Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.louism2wash said:
There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the testmrdoog said:
Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.
Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick
Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.
But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.
