Ben Roberts, 2022 4* DT, (East HS), UT (probably oreGONE)

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doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

This. It’s a chance for Seattle to actually be an advantage for the dwags for a change

whatshouldicareabout

Sources said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

This. It’s a chance for Seattle to actually be an advantage for the dwags for a change

If only someone had $500,000 that they were willing to spend on UW football...

sonics1993

whatshouldicareabout said:

Sources said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

This. It’s a chance for Seattle to actually be an advantage for the dwags for a change

If only someone had $500,000 that they were willing to spend on UW football...

Fire Bob Gregory and I will wire that money. Already told Jen that.

Tequilla

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

You think NIL means you don’t have to cheat?

doogville

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

You think NIL means you don’t have to cheat?

Yes. The bag men can now just do sponsorship deals. Andy Jassy could literally give every husky a million dollars tomorrow.

Why would you need to “cheat”?

godawgst

If the athlete (or his handers) didn't want to pay taxes then it could go back to a under the table arrangement.

Tequilla

doogville said:

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

You think NIL means you don’t have to cheat?

Yes. The bag men can now just do sponsorship deals. Andy Jassy could literally give every husky a million dollars tomorrow.

Why would you need to “cheat”?

Super naive

If you don’t think Athletic Departments aren’t routing $$$ through shell companies to get $$$ one way or another in the hands players you’re naive

Also, look at the companies by and large … it’s big boosters auto dealership that’s giving handouts … that’s privately held companies … publicly traded companies ain’t giving shit unless it’s a net net positive

dannarc

Poulsbo RV?

doogville

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

You think NIL means you don’t have to cheat?

Yes. The bag men can now just do sponsorship deals. Andy Jassy could literally give every husky a million dollars tomorrow.

Why would you need to “cheat”?

Super naive

If you don’t think Athletic Departments aren’t routing $$$ through shell companies to get $$$ one way or another in the hands players you’re naive

Also, look at the companies by and large … it’s big boosters auto dealership that’s giving handouts … that’s privately held companies … publicly traded companies ain’t giving shit unless it’s a net net positive

You’re insufferable. No shit there are some hoops to jump through. But anyone sophisticated enough to have hundreds of thousands of dollars to waste on college athletes can figure out how to set up an LLC they then “promote” or route money through a company (the car dealership, etc) for a sponsorship deal, which is all now perfectly legal.

I don’t even know what point you are trying to make. This is like saying it makes more sense to keep selling weed illegally on the street corner rather than open a licensed store and rake in the money. The rules of the game have changed.

1to392831weretaken

doogville said:

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

Tequilla said:

doogville said:

sonics1993 said:

TommySQC said:

sonics1993 said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Motrboatnsob said:

UDubHusky23 said:

sonics1993 said:

louism2wash said:

mrdoog said:

Ektard with some news. He’s officially gone now.

There's been a lot of talk around the program of Rip being a good recruiter... that's about to be put to the test

Rip has never recruited before, so I can't see how anyone could think he is a good recruiter, and Malloe is now running point on Ben's recruitment.

not defending Rip at all but couldn't you say that about any young coach that gets hired like Chris Hawkins or Prentice Gill from ASU?

Obviously they were trying/cheating but you gotta start somewhere. The combination of Rip, Cato, JonDon and Greggers with the two deadweight coaches at DB make me sick

I believe Gill was at Oregon before he went to ASU and Hawkins was at USC

Gill was a GA at USC and Offensive assistant at Oregon. Hawkins was a GA at USC.

Just saying that coaches can move from GA to position coach and have success. I would not mind Rip and Cato as long as they were surrounded with a competent staff that can nurture them and pick up the slack. But no one can hold their weight. Even Huff lost out on Nabou this year plus Iuli and Agbo looking elsewhere putting a tremendous amount of pressure to land Connerly or bust.

And both were just caught cheating in recruiting. Tosh and Donte Wiliams also had big recruiting successes because they cheated and both are mediocre coaches. So I wouldn't consider anyone of them successful.

Can you be successful (CFP worthy) without cheating? I don't think you can and UW isn't willing to make that step. admirable but you'll be regulated to also ran status. It's not likely to get any better with the NCAA gutless enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you are right in that regard. It's hard to recruit at a high level without cheating.

The thing is, with NIL, you don’t need to cheat anymore. Instead of picking out cute hats to wear at press conferences, Jimmy should be in the office of every CEO in WA who’s even remotely interested in UW football, recruiting them to set up sponsorship deals for recruits & players.

But he’s lazy and overconfident, so of course that isn’t happening. Like, has there been a single noteworthy NIL deal announced by UW yet? What the fuck? Get Steve Ballmer on the phone.

You think NIL means you don’t have to cheat?

Yes. The bag men can now just do sponsorship deals. Andy Jassy could literally give every husky a million dollars tomorrow.

Why would you need to “cheat”?

Super naive

If you don’t think Athletic Departments aren’t routing $$$ through shell companies to get $$$ one way or another in the hands players you’re naive

Also, look at the companies by and large … it’s big boosters auto dealership that’s giving handouts … that’s privately held companies … publicly traded companies ain’t giving shit unless it’s a net net positive

You’re insufferable. No shit there are some hoops to jump through. But anyone sophisticated enough to have hundreds of thousands of dollars to waste on college athletes can figure out how to set up an LLC they then “promote” or route money through a company (the car dealership, etc) for a sponsorship deal, which is all now perfectly legal.

I don’t even know what point you are trying to make. This is like saying it makes more sense to keep selling weed illegally on the street corner rather than open a licensed store and rake in the money. The rules of the game have changed.

Exactly. Why buy players with under the table money when now it can be expensed at tax time?