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Dems to restrict Vitamin D and other supplements in new bill

doogie
doogie Member Posts: 15,072
They hid it in the “infrastructure “ bill.

Gonna make vitamin supplements illegal without a prescription.

Democrats want you to take the jab or else.

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-07-30-variants-congress-wants-dietary-supplements-prescription-only.html
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Will they start capturing cows next?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,762 Standard Supporter
    Insanity! Biden-CoronaBros cheer!
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    They can take my morning vitamin D sun walk from my cold dead hands

    But if you like the perspective you've gained, you can keep it.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Chicom imported fentanyl killing tens of thousands of Americans and crickets from the dems. But vitamin supplements? Big pharma hates them so ....
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    It's similar to the plan in the UK to ban common cold and flu drugs in an attempt to rebrand hay fever as a Convid variant. As Vitamin D helps enhance the immune system, this restriction would result in an increase in common illnesses, which the Nazis in the United States will also rebrand as a Covid 1984 variant.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Swaye said:

    Will they start capturing cows next?

    Capture and kill them in a bovine holocaust, because Climate Nazis hate meat, and Covid Nazis will claim that the cows are spreading the 'virus' so they must be killed.

    Attacking the food supplies to hold populations hostage in order to coerce more people to take the Mengele 'vaccine' is part of the plan
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    @IvanDawg?

    Agree for the most part, vitamin D is important right now though
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited August 2021

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    I have read a lot about vitamins. And there is a lot written about why vitamins are a waste of money, because either our body doesn't absorb them or we don't need them because there's vitamins in our food.

    But I take a multivitamins for the following reasons:

    * To be certain I'm getting all the vitamins and minerals I need. How much does my specific body specifically need of each vitamin and mineral, anyway? Everyone is different size, build, has different muscle/fat ratios, bone sizes, etc. I just feel like if there's no way to specifically know exactly how much I'm depleting and at what rate, then taking a multivitamin as insurance seems like a good idea.

    * When I take vitamin C and B while drinking heavily, I almost never have a hangover. Maybe it's just a placebo effect. But I have read that drinking depletes vitamins and people recommend to take vitamins while drinking to reduce the hangover. It seems to work, which tells me our bodies do in fact absorb vitamin supplements when we take them.

    * Building a diet that has me eating a very diverse amount of foods regularly seems difficult, especially since I live alone and only have myself to feed. Grocery stores make you buy larger quantities than a single person can go through.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    I have read a lot about vitamins. And there is a lot written about why vitamins are a waste of money, because either our body doesn't absorb them or we don't need them because there's vitamins in our food.

    But I take a multivitamins for the following reasons:

    * To be certain I'm getting all the vitamins and minerals I need. How much does my specific body specifically need of each vitamin and mineral, anyway? Everyone is different size, build, has different muscle/fat ratios, bone sizes, etc. I just feel like if there's no way to specifically know exactly how much I'm depleting and at what rate, then taking a multivitamin as insurance seems like a good idea.

    * When I take vitamin C and B while drinking heavily, I almost never have a hangover. Maybe it's just a placebo effect. But I have read that drinking depletes vitamins and people recommend to take vitamins while drinking to reduce the hangover. It seems to work, which tells me our bodies do in fact absorb vitamin supplements when we take them.

    * Building a diet that has me eating a very diverse amount of foods regularly seems difficult, especially since I live alone and only have myself to feed. Grocery stores make you buy larger quantities than a single person can go through.
    Vitamins B and C are water soluble. So, if you drink coffee, lots of water or alcohol these get stripped out of your body. If you are on a low carb diet, then you aren't eating fruit that is high in Vitamin C. So then what? Supplements are important. The feds can't figure out how to stop the chicoms from shipping fentanyl into the US but are concerned about supplements? It's all a big pharma scam. Let the people decide. I'm vitamin D deficient and need the supplement. Also due to the chicom crud I also take zinc.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    Neither vitamin D nor zinc are a scam.
    If you eat right, you already get plenty of both.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,762 Standard Supporter
    Mo reason for this bullshit other than preventing us from treating ourselves in instances such as the current China virus scam. Fuck 'em! You can take my vitamins from my cold dead hands!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2021
    Sledog said:

    Mo reason for this bullshit other than preventing us from treating ourselves in instances such as the current China virus scam. Fuck 'em! You can take my vitamins from my cold dead hands!

    @RoadDawg55 vs @Sledog: Pistols at Dawn!
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    For the most part, yeah. But vitamin D is one of the few supplements that most adults who aren't living in the sun belt can actually benefit from.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    For the most part, yeah. But vitamin D is one of the few supplements that most adults who aren't living in the sun belt can actually benefit from.
    Blacks are really deficient in Vitamin D. Probably one of the reasons that the chicom crud is harder on them. That and the diabetes and obesity. Still haven't heard any PSAs directed at blacks. New York City just banned about 65% of the black population from bars and restaurants. Not quite sure how you can expect blacks to get a free vaccine and a vaccine ID. Pretty damn racist.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135

    Sledog said:

    Mo reason for this bullshit other than preventing us from treating ourselves in instances such as the current China virus scam. Fuck 'em! You can take my vitamins from my cold dead hands!

    @RoadDawg55 vs @Sledog: Pistols at Dawn!
    Not at all. Government and big pharma should stay out. People should be allowed to take whatever they want. Most vitamins and supplements are scams tho.

    I see this possibility for what it is. Another way for big pharma to control a multi billion dollar industry and line their pockets thru buying politicians.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Mo reason for this bullshit other than preventing us from treating ourselves in instances such as the current China virus scam. Fuck 'em! You can take my vitamins from my cold dead hands!

    @RoadDawg55 vs @Sledog: Pistols at Dawn!
    Not at all. Government and big pharma should stay out. People should be allowed to take whatever they want. Most vitamins and supplements are scams tho.

    I see this possibility for what it is. Another way for big pharma to control a multi billion dollar industry and line their pockets thru buying politicians.
    Don't forget the placebo effect. Look at the miracle covid drug Remdesivir.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

    Summary
    Background
    No specific antiviral drug has been proven effective for treatment of patients with severe coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Remdesivir (GS-5734), a nucleoside analogue prodrug, has inhibitory effects on pathogenic animal and human coronaviruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro, and inhibits Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, SARS-CoV-1, and SARS-CoV-2 replication in animal models.

    Methods
    We did a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled, multicentre trial at ten hospitals in Hubei, China. Eligible patients were adults (aged ≥18 years) admitted to hospital with laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, with an interval from symptom onset to enrolment of 12 days or less, oxygen saturation of 94% or less on room air or a ratio of arterial oxygen partial pressure to fractional inspired oxygen of 300 mm Hg or less, and radiologically confirmed pneumonia. Patients were randomly assigned in a 2:1 ratio to intravenous remdesivir (200 mg on day 1 followed by 100 mg on days 2–10 in single daily infusions) or the same volume of placebo infusions for 10 days. Patients were permitted concomitant use of lopinavir–ritonavir, interferons, and corticosteroids. The primary endpoint was time to clinical improvement up to day 28, defined as the time (in days) from randomisation to the point of a decline of two levels on a six-point ordinal scale of clinical status (from 1=discharged to 6=death) or discharged alive from hospital, whichever came first. Primary analysis was done in the intention-to-treat (ITT) population and safety analysis was done in all patients who started their assigned treatment. This trial is registered with ClinicalTrials.gov, NCT04257656.

    Findings
    Between Feb 6, 2020, and March 12, 2020, 237 patients were enrolled and randomly assigned to a treatment group (158 to remdesivir and 79 to placebo); one patient in the placebo group who withdrew after randomisation was not included in the ITT population. Remdesivir use was not associated with a difference in time to clinical improvement (hazard ratio 1·23 [95% CI 0·87–1·75]). Although not statistically significant, patients receiving remdesivir had a numerically faster time to clinical improvement than those receiving placebo among patients with symptom duration of 10 days or less (hazard ratio 1·52 [0·95–2·43]). Adverse events were reported in 102 (66%) of 155 remdesivir recipients versus 50 (64%) of 78 placebo recipients. Remdesivir was stopped early because of adverse events in 18 (12%) patients versus four (5%) patients who stopped placebo early.

    Interpretation
    In this study of adult patients admitted to hospital for severe COVID-19, remdesivir was not associated with statistically significant clinical benefits. However, the numerical reduction in time to clinical improvement in those treated earlier requires confirmation in larger studies.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,407 Founders Club

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    Neither vitamin D nor zinc are a scam.
    If you eat right, you already get plenty of both.
    Not if you don't live in a sunny environment
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    Neither vitamin D nor zinc are a scam.
    If you eat right, you already get plenty of both.
    Not if you don't live in a sunny environment
    Then toss in sunscreen.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    Neither vitamin D nor zinc are a scam.
    If you eat right, you already get plenty of both.
    Not if you don't live in a sunny environment
    I stand corrected. Not all vitamins are scams. I don’t think they are really that important or add substantial benefit, but to each their own.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,407 Founders Club

    I think this is just for weight loss supplements, not vitamins. Could be wrong, and either way it's government overreach.

    Vitamins and supplements are scams to begin with. Nobody actually needs them. If the article is true, it’s just another way to line big pharma’s pockets.

    Vitamins and supplements are a huge industry. Look at any IG model and somewhere she is advertising some detox tea and/or other supplements.

    There are many people selling supplements thru their branding on social media and Amazon and do well. I have a friend that is a millionaire from it.
    Neither vitamin D nor zinc are a scam.
    If you eat right, you already get plenty of both.
    Not if you don't live in a sunny environment
    I stand corrected. Not all vitamins are scams. I don’t think they are really that important or add substantial benefit, but to each their own.
    Guys like Ben Greenfield say that multivitamins are essentially worthless, that we just pee them right out of the body. So I'm not saying that you're completely wrong.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    Liquid B12 for Hangovers is the Shit.

    Learned that from my alcoholic HS biology teacher.

    Also learned about Hot AF Korean hookers from him.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662



    Vitamin R is the only one that did fuck all for the Throbber.

    J?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter



    Vitamin R is the only one that did fuck all for the Throbber.

    Can't help it, but I never liked the Vitamin R. Always an Olympia guy, like my dad and his beer buddies back in the 70s.

    The best Yakima Valley Hops went into Grant's Scottish Ale and Galena Trail Ale in Sun Valley, which Grant's provided the hops to.

    And that's not a humble brag. That's a giant fucking BRAG! Grant's and Galena were the SHIT!