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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    So how does free housing for everyone work in your model?

    Coercion is the government telling a landlord he doesn't own his property. Freedom is being able to earn enough to buy rent or live where your efforts allow

    Your idea of freedom is strange to say the least

    Make housing a right. There’s a million different ways to fill in the blanks.

    In the extreme, would you say slaves being freed was a coercive act? It was the government telling someone they didn’t own their property anymore. I would say it wasn’t because the freedom to own that “property” was impeding on the freedom of the slaves to not be property.

    It’s not apples to apples but, to me, the logical arrow follows. Owning property, specifically to rent it, is coercive and impedes on what I believe should be everyone’s right, a place to live.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Make housing a right. There’s a million different ways to fill in the blanks.

    In the extreme, would you say slaves being freed was a coercive act? It was the government telling someone they didn’t own their property anymore. I would say it wasn’t because the freedom to own that “property” was impeding on the freedom of the slaves to not be property.

    It’s not apples to apples but, to me, the logical arrow follows. Owning property, specifically to rent it, is coercive and impedes on what I believe should be everyone’s right, a place to live.
    Christ. You don’t even know what a right is. If there was anyone had any doubt TKS is a fully blown communist that doubt should no longer exist. And using a sweet logical fallacy strawman is just icing on the cake.

    Free government housing for all. Sounds like a winner.
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,541 Founders Club
    This is the textbook definition of Politicians playing to their base.

    Bernie/aoc, and the puppet they control in the white house love to play the class welfare card, where they can Robinhood from the evil, greedy rich and then "attempt" to distribute it to the poor(er).

    By any metric, hiring signs are abundant all over America, yet the Dems still want to have a moratorium on paying rent. GDP/consumer spending is as good as it's going to get. What happens when the housing bubble and stock market finally re-sets and the economy cools?

    I think a year ago many people were up against it w/ their jobs being suddenly pulled, but 2/3rd of them have been re-hired or are back to work.

    If we could only get UBI in addition to people not having to pay rent, then we could really get somewhere w/ Gov't and cradle to grave.

  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    So there is a mutually and freely agreed to contract. On person breaches the contract. They need to abide by the terms of the contract they agreed to re: the remedy for breach of contract. Why is this a difficult concept? And who says they are threatened with “homelessness”? Is the place they are renting the only place to live? The only two options aren’t living in someone else’s place for free or living under a bridge. WTF?

    There is also already government assistance for low income people. Section 8, vouchers, etc. People have not paid rent and been evicted since places for rent started. What’s so special now?
    It doesn’t matter if you have a thousand contractual options, you have to sign one or you don’t have a place to live. That’s coercive, not freedom.

    There’s a 100 million people in rental properties. They literally can’t all make the choice to live in government housing. There’s 1.2 million households in government housing and 43 million households renting. Come on, this is a garbage argument. I don’t even have to get to the part where many of them wouldn’t qualify.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Christ. You don’t even know what a right is. If there was anyone had any doubt TKS is a fully blown communist that doubt should no longer exist. And using a sweet logical fallacy strawman is just icing on the cake.

    Free government housing for all. Sounds like a winner.
    So government housing isn’t a good option now?Because I’m pretty sure you were just arguing it was.

    I would hope anyone that had any doubt, of me being a communist, lost it when I said I’m a communist.

    For the record, I do prefer the term socialist. I think any kind of communism is so far in the future that our idea of it will change a lot by the time we get there and it may not even be valid to call it communism then.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Like all leftists Kobe feels like he has an entitlement to the labor of others.
    Just like all capitalists.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2021

    So government housing isn’t a good option now?Because I’m pretty sure you were just arguing it was.

    I would hope anyone that had any doubt, of me being a communist, lost it when I said I’m a communist.

    For the record, I do prefer the term socialist. I think any kind of communism is so far in the future that our idea of it will change a lot by the time we get there and it may not even be valid to call it communism then.
    We have government safety nets that don’t involved especially confiscating people’s real estate. Are you dense?

    Communism just needs time to get it’s guys in there like TKS. He would do it way different than all the other failed communist nations.

    You’re as nutty as OBK and should be treated as such. Hth.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Just like all capitalists.
    Gaslighters gonna light gas
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    Just like all capitalists.
    Capitalists pay for it, stupid.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 111,039 Founders Club

    Make housing a right. There’s a million different ways to fill in the blanks.

    In the extreme, would you say slaves being freed was a coercive act? It was the government telling someone they didn’t own their property anymore. I would say it wasn’t because the freedom to own that “property” was impeding on the freedom of the slaves to not be property.

    It’s not apples to apples but, to me, the logical arrow follows. Owning property, specifically to rent it, is coercive and impedes on what I believe should be everyone’s right, a place to live.
    Why I love you bro. Got the race card in. Its the million different ways that's the issue.

    We're not going to be in the same area code on this

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    So "Earning your Keep" is immoral and coercive. Got it.

    When the folks die and you can't pay the property taxes (from the basement), the county will "coerce" your move by foreclosing on the house and tossing your ass into the street.

    Just desserts from the Government you love so much.
    That’s what he wants. Then the government will own the property. Get it?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    So "Earning your Keep" is immoral and coercive. Got it.

    When the folks die and you can't pay the property taxes (from the basement), the county will "coerce" your move by foreclosing on the house and tossing your ass into the street.

    Just desserts from the Government you love so much.
    That’s what he wants. Then the government will own the property. Get it?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    That’s what he wants. Then the government will own the property. Get it?
    And he'll be sucking dick to pay rent.

    Win-Win
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    We have government safety nets that don’t involved especially confiscating people’s real estate. Are you dense?

    Communism just needs time to get it’s guys in there like TKS. He would do it way different than all the other failed communist nations.

    You’re as nutty as OBK and should be treated as such. Hth.
    Aww, it’s cute that you found a moment to pretend your right wing libertarianism isn’t extreme. Should we have government safety nets, Mike? How are you going to pay for it? With stolen tax dollars? Foh.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Aww, it’s cute that you found a moment to pretend your right wing libertarianism isn’t extreme. Should we have government safety nets, Mike? How are you going to pay for it? With stolen tax dollars? Foh.
    You’re not a serious person. We should have government safety nets funded by consumption tax. I’m not a libertarian, dumb fuck.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Make housing a right. There’s a million different ways to fill in the blanks.

    In the extreme, would you say slaves being freed was a coercive act? It was the government telling someone they didn’t own their property anymore. I would say it wasn’t because the freedom to own that “property” was impeding on the freedom of the slaves to not be property.

    It’s not apples to apples but, to me, the logical arrow follows. Owning property, specifically to rent it, is coercive and impedes on what I believe should be everyone’s right, a place to live.
    Funny you bring up slavery because that's exactly the way you think you should be able to treat property owners. The property they worked for and own isn't really theirs to do with as they choose, it's really yours to do with as you choose. Nothing new here, you Rat party supporters have always believed you had an entitlement to the labor of others.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Just like all capitalists.
    Nope, people are perfectly free to not work for me if they choose not to work for me. I have no entitlement to their labor. But you do feel like the property owner's property, that they worked for, isn't really theirs, and that you should have it.
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