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  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter
    No offense Derek. I read yours too.
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter
    I sense a Groz ‘n Gas thread forthcoming…
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club

    I sense a Groz ‘n Gas thread forthcoming…

    You lit the fuse
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter

    I sense a Groz ‘n Gas thread forthcoming…

    You lit the fuse
    The doldrums of July🤷‍♂️
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    Odd that a book written by Gas says "Written by Chris Fetters" on the cover
    What’s really odd is it also says “Forward by Chris Fetters”.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Odd that a book written by Gas says "Written by Chris Fetters" on the cover
    What’s really odd is it also says “Forward by Chris Fetters”.
    Chris nacho fetters*
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,523 Founders Club

    No offense Derek. I read yours too.

    No offense taken.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,523 Founders Club
    I will say this... When I was writing my Willingham book, Gastineau agreed to be interviewed, even though he was well aware of my criticism of the program and Willingham (and he was a vocal Willingham supporter).
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,800 Founders Club
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter
    I clearly remember where many people stand as “enemies of the progrum,” etc. but with Gas all I remember is that he was a boring guy with very safe takes.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,523 Founders Club

    I clearly remember where many people stand as “enemies of the progrum,” etc. but with Gas all I remember is that he was a boring guy with very safe takes.

    Wrong. He took very strong takes that Willingham wasn't being given enough time and that this was so unfair. He co-hosted with Rondeau the Coach's Show that year, and I was massively disappointed in both him and Rondeau.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,523 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    I will say this... When I was writing my Willingham book, Gastineau agreed to be interviewed, even though he was well aware of my criticism of the program and Willingham (and he was a vocal Willingham supporter).

    I was at Salty Senioritas in Peoria, AZ. Gas was in there and I was with a couple guys Gas knew.

    He came over to the table and we were introduced. He knew I had spoken out against Willingham. He wants to argue. James was overrated. The Huskies were only successful for two years and the fans supported James and gave him tim -- years -- to get guys in there. Billy Joe and Dainake Smith were paid. James wasn't lily white. On and on.

    People like me were the reasons black coaches didn't get a fair shake. Gas didn't like the FACTS and someone willing to say it to his FACE. He called me a racist after I called and said Willingham was a losing fraud. Gas tried to belly me. I shoved him back and we were separated. For reelz.

    CSB.
    Wow, that is some story. He didn't get belligerent with me, but maybe that was because the recorder was running.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,523 Founders Club
    Fear No Man is a terrible title. He will regret that one day, just like I regret The Dawgs of War. I should have come up with something better.
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter
    Thanks for filling in some blanks on the guy. I had my head up my ass during those years.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    I will say this... When I was writing my Willingham book, Gastineau agreed to be interviewed, even though he was well aware of my criticism of the program and Willingham (and he was a vocal Willingham supporter).

    I was at Salty Senioritas in Peoria, AZ. Gas was in there and I was with a couple guys Gas knew.

    He came over to the table and we were introduced. He knew I had spoken out against Willingham. He wants to argue. James was overrated. The Huskies were only successful for two years and the fans supported James and gave him tim -- years -- to get guys in there. Billy Joe and Dainake Smith were paid. James wasn't lily white. On and on.

    People like me were the reasons black coaches didn't get a fair shake. Gas didn't like the FACTS and someone willing to say it to his FACE. He called me a racist after I called and said Willingham was a losing fraud. Gas tried to belly me. I shoved him back and we were separated. For reelz.

    CSB.
    Wow, that is some story. He didn't get belligerent with me, but maybe that was because the recorder was running.
    He was drunk. So was I. This was March 2008 before Owen Tweleve. I was proved right on my take and you and I discussed offline why he probably singled me out.

    Hard to argue with you after Willingham was proven to be a fraud
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    I clearly remember where many people stand as “enemies of the progrum,” etc. but with Gas all I remember is that he was a boring guy with very safe takes.

    Wrong. He took very strong takes that Willingham wasn't being given enough time and that this was so unfair. He co-hosted with Rondeau the Coach's Show that year, and I was massively disappointed in both him and Rondeau.
    This. Very Strong takes. Gas was a dogmatic TW Disciple.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Gas sucks and quit living in the past.
  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,057

    Gas sucks and quit living in the past.

    91 was thirty years ago. It is pathetic that we are still hanging onto 91 because we have been mostly irrelevant since then.
    The truth has been spoken

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    I will say this... When I was writing my Willingham book, Gastineau agreed to be interviewed, even though he was well aware of my criticism of the program and Willingham (and he was a vocal Willingham supporter).

    Of course he was a Ty Willy supporter. He's a piece of shit with low standards and grovels for his access like the rest of them. FTG
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,800 Founders Club

    Gas sucks and quit living in the past.

    91 was thirty years ago. It is pathetic that we are still hanging onto 91 because we have been mostly irrelevant since then.
    While true, at least UW got there. For all the shit Oregon's NFL fans talk they have a semi final win against a burned out ACC team.

    And SC has been completely irrelevant since their last championship, going on 15 years.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    haie said:

    Gas sucks and quit living in the past.

    91 was thirty years ago. It is pathetic that we are still hanging onto 91 because we have been mostly irrelevant since then.
    While true, at least UW got there. For all the shit Oregon's NFL fans talk they have a semi final win against a burned out ACC team.

    And SC has been completely irrelevant since their last championship, going on 15 years.
    The burned out ACC team (Florida State) were National Champs the prior season.

    To correct your memory, Oregon played in the National Championship game and lost to Auburn, 22-19, in 2011 (2010 season).
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Oregon beat them in the semis, 59-14 at the Rose Bowl in 2015 (2014 season).

    The previous year - 2014 (2013 season), Florida State won the National Championship, beating Auburn, 34-31.
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,244 Standard Supporter
    trublue said:

    haie said:

    Gas sucks and quit living in the past.

    91 was thirty years ago. It is pathetic that we are still hanging onto 91 because we have been mostly irrelevant since then.
    While true, at least UW got there. For all the shit Oregon's NFL fans talk they have a semi final win against a burned out ACC team.

    And SC has been completely irrelevant since their last championship, going on 15 years.
    The burned out ACC team (Florida State) were National Champs the prior season.

    To correct your memory, Oregon played in the National Championship game and lost to Auburn, 22-19, in 2011 (2010 season).
    The ongoing talk all season on FSU was how lucky they were and when would it run out? Totally different skwad than the year before.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Forgot Oregon was favored (-8.5) in the game . . .