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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,721 Standard Supporter
    Rubberfist said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
    Civil war. You ready?
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    What percentage is the “Grand majority of the Left in the US?”

    I’m sure the “Left” wants “EVERYONE ELSE” to pay their fair share.

    In case you haven’t noticed, this country is broke.

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  • Rubberfist
    Rubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,721 Standard Supporter
    Rubberfist said:


    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    British national dental care system is top notch!
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  • Rubberfist
    Rubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    Sledog said:

    Rubberfist said:


    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    British national dental care system is top notch!
    As usual your argument is dumb. Now do the other countries.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    Rubberfist said:


    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    You're the one who is now arguing that having nationalized healthcare makes you just like Cuba. The topic here was Cuban socialism/communism and why Cuba has such a shitty economy and shortages of consumer goods and the US embargo is the excuse loser leftists always make while the ignore the fact that Cuban can't even provide their people with enough food to eat.
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Most European countries have mostly open borders. Canada and Switzerland do not.
    The vast majority of the other countries (as they currently exist) will be swept into the dust bins of history.

    They do not have replacement rates for reproduction and the past and future immigrant surges will simply overwhelm their social safety nets.

    Many of their immigrants have come from very different cultures and assimilation into the prevailing culture has been and will continue to be highly problematic.

    Some of these immigrants like to have large families, while the European nationals apparently do not.

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  • Rubberfist
    Rubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    Impose sanctions.

    Cause shortages.

    Finger wag about socialism.

    They trade with nearly every other country on the planet. They have shortages because of their shitty government and economic system.
    “ . . . because their nomenklatura (pigs at the top) take their cut/slice of the pie first. The citizens of Cuba get to fight over the leftovers/scraps.
    You might be able to make the argument that Cuba has more difficulty getting things like farm equipment and certain types of medical equipment because of the embargo but it has nothing to do with why the shelves of the grocery stores are always empty and why there is always shortages for things like toilet paper and meat. Kobe as usual has his head up his ass.
    That wasn’t the argument at all. The original post was about “real” socialism and had Italy, Greece and Spain. In fact Cuba wasn’t even part of the original argument.

    You’re doing great, Bob.
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Rubberfist said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Rubberfist said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
    If people want rationed care, cool. Leave an option for people who don’t want to pay into it and can pay as they go or go through some type of insurance system. I believe Switzerland has viable options.

    There are enough Government programs and they simply have not worked well (they’re Ponzi Schemes with insatiable appetites for more money) and are inefficient.

    They’re very good at creating gigantic bureaucracies . . . Not very good at actual solutions.





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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,721 Standard Supporter
    Rubber just wants free shit.
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