TBS: Just the Facts, Jack
Here are 5 facts:
- In the 13 years of data that I compiled 8 of those years UW ended up with a class in the Top 25. Rick did it twice, Gilby did it in his one year, Willingham did it once, and Sark did it 4 times.
- There are two outliers in this case, both of them transition years. One year was Willingham's first when he finished at 55, the other was Sark's first year when he finished at 66.
- Petersen's first class at UW, during a transition year, resulted in a class ranking of 35.
_ Petersen's first class had an average star rating of 3. This is the 6th best average star rating class in the 13 years recorded.
- Sarkisian's first class was the lowest rated class in the 13 years recorded.
If people want to be stupid and jump to conclusions about Petersen and his recruiting, they also better admit that the same concerns should have been brought up about Sarkisian's recruiting when he first started. Clearly, Sark got his recruiting momentum going after his first class (although there are holes in those classes, as will be shown in later posts), so who is to say that Petersen can't get better after his first class?
The main point of this is to show that whoever is coaching the University of Washington will be able to bring in highly regarded classes. Tyrone Willingham, a man who outwardly admitted to not liking recruiting, recruited at a high enough level after his first year that anyone who actually knew how to coach could have had more success with. He also did so at a time when the program was at historic lows.
TL;DR Version: Shut the fuck up Dawgman idiots and let it PLAY THE FUCK OUT when it comes to recruiting.
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Yeah, but still.
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Well played, that is about the response that this would get if I still posted over at doogman.MikeDamone said:Yeah, but still.
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I thought sarks first class was better than that. He had FREE PUB! and stuff
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He coached in the Rose Bowl and recruits saw him and stuff.MikeDamone said:I thought sarks first class was better than that. He had FREE PUB! and stuff
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I mentioned something similar a few months ago. In fact if you look at the ranking of the class by average stars and not points, it even makes the point stronger. The HC at UW will always bring in a top 25 class if its a non transition year.
The other point is that many of the top recruits of Sark & Ty also never panned out for a host of reasons. In Sark's classes 2010 & 2011, less than half of the guys in both classes started more than a handful of games. I quickly counted and there were about 11-12 in the 2010 class and 9 in the 2011 class.
The 2012 class is already a fucking mess. Wallace, Vatuvei, McDaniel, Dean, Auelua, Wilson, Rodgers are already gone. Nearly third of the fucking class was done before it even reached two years in the program. The JC guys Coons and Banks are gone. Turpin, Darien Washington, Hindy, Wooching & Lindquist figure not to start more than a few games. Then there are a few other lineman who should be depth players but will be forced to start because of Sark's recruiting failures.
Here is where the difference will be. Petersen will probably bring in 2 less 4/5* guys than Sark did per class. Mind you, its really Sark + hired mercenary Tosh, bc without him Sark's recruiting was terrible other than in his first "real" class. Anyway, instead of only having 8-12 of the 24 recruits contributing on the field, Petersen's classes will have 14-17. Petersen won't have random holes at a position or two each year like we see at safety and punter now and then OL next year. -
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Your best effort ...
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If Petersen continues his success at UW then I think he is going to start landing great classes. Top 20 for sure. People will know then he really is that good of a coach and it wasn't all because he just got to beat up on shitty teams in Boise State's conference.
A thing I remember about Sark's 4 star players he would get were either local or California kids who only had offers from like Cal and WSU. He never got ones that had an offer sheet from really good schools.
Sark had a lot of players fall into his lap like Kasen, ASJ, and Shaq.
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HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I mentioned something similar a few months ago. In fact if you look at the ranking of the class by average stars and not points, it even makes the point stronger. The HC at UW will always bring in a top 25 class if its a non transition year.
The other point is that many of the top recruits of Sark & Ty also never panned out for a host of reasons. In Sark's classes 2010 & 2011, less than half of the guys in both classes started more than a handful of games. I quickly counted and there were about 11-12 in the 2010 class and 9 in the 2011 class.
The 2012 class is already a fucking mess. Wallace, Vatuvei, McDaniel, Dean, Auelua, Wilson, Rodgers are already gone. Nearly third of the fucking class was done before it even reached two years in the program. The JC guys Coons and Banks are gone. Turpin, Darien Washington, Hindy, Wooching & Lindquist figure not to start more than a few games. Then there are a few other lineman who should be depth players but will be forced to start because of Sark's recruiting failures.
Here is where the difference will be. Petersen will probably bring in 2 less 4/5* guys than Sark did per class. Mind you, its really Sark + hired mercenary Tosh and his magic coffee, bc without him Sark's recruiting was terrible other than in his first "real" class. Anyway, instead of only having 8-12 of the 24 recruits contributing on the field, Petersen's classes will have 14-17. Petersen won't have random holes at a position or two each year like we see at safety and punter now and then OL next year.
