TBS: Just the Facts, Jack
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Some moron over there is using Kyle Wittingham's mediocre ride through the Pac-12 as reason why Petersen will fail. Like always, when the facts came up (Wittingham stayed at the same program - Fucking Utah, and Petersen pulled in more 4-star players in his transition year than Wittingham did in his entire career at Utah) this gem came up:
"Say what you like about Sark but he is killing it at USC right now"
Yes, they're that dumb.
As for the Lemon Party Trio, I don't think the hiring of Petersen was a big deal for them, it was Petersen showing up and saying "OK, I'm not working with this frat party" - Tosh, Sirmon, Nansen, etc. That's when all the hoss94 bullshit and made-up stories started showing up - "my nephew is a surfer dude football player from SoCal and he said Pete and his staff were like Ward Cleavers"
People still think that if you have some magic coordinator on your staff you're going to pull in tons of 5-star talent even if you suck. They don't realize that good recruiting comes from FUCKING WINNING. If Pete goes 11-2 this year I will bet any fuck on that board my entire life savings that Pete will have a better recruiting class than Sark ever had. Yes, that boring old Petersen with his staff of Ward Cleavers. Just like fat, gay Chip Kelly was able to do, they will go into kid's houses and say "yeah, we're fucking winners, come to our school." They won't have to show up to kids houses woofing and wearing helmets, they won't have to make a fake jersey with the kids name on it, they won't embarrass the university by "proposing" to the kid over the phone. Peterman, Bonerpoppa, Chode, Pees, and the rest will just walk in, drop their 11-win dicks on the table and say, "impressive, isn't it? sign on the line if you want to play for a winner" -
That's pretty much what I always envisioned Saban doing. Shit works.bananasnblondes said:Peterman, Bonerpoppa, Chode, Pees, and the rest will just walk in, drop their 11-win dicks on the table and say, "impressive, isn't it? sign on the line if you want to play for a winner"
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I couldn't help but notice your bar chart color choice for the Ty W years.
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I agree with Cunt here. If Peterman ends up being successful here, he will end up with some great classes in the future. We have a great program, great fans, money, new facilities, and a winning team would make us very competitive for blue chip type recruits.
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Al Sharpton will be in touch.sarktastic said:I couldn't help but notice your bar chart color choice for the Ty W years.
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Honest question: are the TBS star ratings assigned via a consensus from all scout/rivals people? Or are they rated based on one person's opinion?
I am not saying the star rating system is terrible- I know that for the most part, teams with top-25 recruiting classes are the same teams that end up in the top-25 rankings. But, if a person (ecktard) is assigning stars and is also complaining about a coach, is it possible that his biased opinion could affect the players' rating?
In other words, if he goes into it with the attitude "peterman can't recruit at this level", could he give a player 3 stars instead of 4 because he subconsciously believes that peterman can't recruit 4-star guys? I honestly don't know...maybe he doesn't have that much control over it? -
Take the stars with a grain of salt. Look at the offer sheets. I trust D-1 coaches to evaluate talent much more than I trust a bunch of NAMBLA motherfuckers.
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No idea now, but many years ago Ektard used to insist he had nothing to with rankings. Other fat people do those.Dardanus said:Honest question: are the TBS star ratings assigned via a consensus from all scout/rivals people? Or are they rated based on one person's opinion?
I am not saying the star rating system is terrible- I know that for the most part, teams with top-25 recruiting classes are the same teams that end up in the top-25 rankings. But, if a person (ecktard) is assigning stars and is also complaining about a coach, is it possible that his biased opinion could affect the players' rating?
In other words, if he goes into it with the attitude "peterman can't recruit at this level", could he give a player 3 stars instead of 4 because he subconsciously believes that peterman can't recruit 4-star guys? I honestly don't know...maybe he doesn't have that much control over it? -
OKGs.HeretoBeatmyChest said:I mentioned something similar a few months ago. In fact if you look at the ranking of the class by average stars and not points, it even makes the point stronger. The HC at UW will always bring in a top 25 class if its a non transition year.
The other point is that many of the top recruits of Sark & Ty also never panned out for a host of reasons. In Sark's classes 2010 & 2011, less than half of the guys in both classes started more than a handful of games. I quickly counted and there were about 11-12 in the 2010 class and 9 in the 2011 class.
The 2012 class is already a fucking mess. Wallace, Vatuvei, McDaniel, Dean, Auelua, Wilson, Rodgers are already gone. Nearly third of the fucking class was done before it even reached two years in the program. The JC guys Coons and Banks are gone. Turpin, Darien Washington, Hindy, Wooching & Lindquist figure not to start more than a few games. Then there are a few other lineman who should be depth players but will be forced to start because of Sark's recruiting failures.
Here is where the difference will be. Petersen will probably bring in 2 less 4/5* guys than Sark did per class. Mind you, its really Sark + hired mercenary Tosh, bc without him Sark's recruiting was terrible other than in his first "real" class. Anyway, instead of only having 8-12 of the 24 recruits contributing on the field, Petersen's classes will have 14-17. Petersen won't have random holes at a position or two each year like we see at safety and punter now and then OL next year. -
Like who????//??Swaye said:
No idea now, but many years ago Ektard used to insist he had nothing to with rankings. Other fat people do those.Dardanus said:Honest question: are the TBS star ratings assigned via a consensus from all scout/rivals people? Or are they rated based on one person's opinion?
I am not saying the star rating system is terrible- I know that for the most part, teams with top-25 recruiting classes are the same teams that end up in the top-25 rankings. But, if a person (ecktard) is assigning stars and is also complaining about a coach, is it possible that his biased opinion could affect the players' rating?
In other words, if he goes into it with the attitude "peterman can't recruit at this level", could he give a player 3 stars instead of 4 because he subconsciously believes that peterman can't recruit 4-star guys? I honestly don't know...maybe he doesn't have that much control over it?
