A Q for the Wealth Creators
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Yes. I can.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very funny Purp. But like I said, the time for government cynicism has passed. The time for hope is now. Join us, will you?PurpleJ said:
They just need more time is all. People forget that America was 0-12 in 2008.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Stop for a minute and really think about how good the last 6 years have been. Do you want the progressive cause to end in 2016? Sure, we might not all identify ourselves as progressives, or even Democrats, but it's clear the Obama-led progressive wing of the Democratic party is truly acting in the best interests of every person on American soil.Swaye said:I'm pretty sure I would kill something if a Clinton/Pelosi ticket won.
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Awesome! Thanks! Feels good, doesn't it, letting go of all that mistrust? Tell your friends.PurpleJ said:
Yes. I can.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very funny Purp. But like I said, the time for government cynicism has passed. The time for hope is now. Join us, will you?PurpleJ said:
They just need more time is all. People forget that America was 0-12 in 2008.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Stop for a minute and really think about how good the last 6 years have been. Do you want the progressive cause to end in 2016? Sure, we might not all identify ourselves as progressives, or even Democrats, but it's clear the Obama-led progressive wing of the Democratic party is truly acting in the best interests of every person on American soil.Swaye said:I'm pretty sure I would kill something if a Clinton/Pelosi ticket won.
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BRB. Facebook meme hunting.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Awesome! Thanks! Feels good, doesn't it, letting go of all that mistrust? Tell your friends.PurpleJ said:
Yes. I can.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very funny Purp. But like I said, the time for government cynicism has passed. The time for hope is now. Join us, will you?PurpleJ said:
They just need more time is all. People forget that America was 0-12 in 2008.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Stop for a minute and really think about how good the last 6 years have been. Do you want the progressive cause to end in 2016? Sure, we might not all identify ourselves as progressives, or even Democrats, but it's clear the Obama-led progressive wing of the Democratic party is truly acting in the best interests of every person on American soil.Swaye said:I'm pretty sure I would kill something if a Clinton/Pelosi ticket won.
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So you are basically saying do away with the Senate.AZDuck said:The structure of first-past-the-post inexorably leads to a two-party system. It's baked into the cake.
California, Texas, Florida, and New York should have more say than Wyoming. Let's say those states get 4 Senators. Washington, and other middle-range states should get 2 or 3. Wyoming, Vermont, and the other dinkies get one, which is more than they deserve by sheer proportion of population, which I think helps them represent their interests - after all, Wyoming doesn't have 1/4 of CA's population. And DC should be represented in Congress.
The question was about what I think - I think the Supremes got it wrong WRT political speech. I also think that the Supremes do a bit more legislating from the bench than they should - lib and conservative. I think that a lib court would be more likely to craft a ruling that I would agree with, but I would rather this issue be handled explicitly by the constitutional document. In most countries elections are managed by the legislature as representing the will of the sovereign (the people) rather than the people that think they know best (the judges).
"wide disparities" - I don't think the Founders thought that we would have this much disparity between the states. I also don't care. It's undemocratic as hell.
And if you do so, does Wyoming and Vermont have the right to leave the Union?
At the end of the day.
No Constitution has lasted as long as America's.
It survived a Civil War, which the reigning President ignored it, but it survived.
It survived FDR fucking with it.
It survived Nixon.
It may survive Obama.
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But waste and overreaching government spending isn't caused by the constitution. It lies in the fact that we have an institution with the power to compel taxes, plus a constituency that think they benefit from the exercise of this power, it is recipe for an endless series of excuses to incrementally expand that power. Also the same argument made against "greedy" capitalist can be made against a greedy government. At the end of it all they are comprised of people who have the same flaws and capacity for evil. It's just a lot harder to break up the monopoly that is the government.
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This thread has staked out new territory in the land of TLDR.
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We know you can't read. It's okay bud.oregonblitzkrieg said:This thread has staked out new territory in the land of TLDR.
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Fixed.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Stop for a minute and really think about how good the last 6 years have been. Do you want the progressive cause to end in 2016? Sure, we might not all identify ourselves as progressives, or even Democrats, but it's clear the Obama-led progressive wing of the Democratic party is truly acting in the best interests of every person on AND SOON TO BE ON American soil.Swaye said:I'm pretty sure I would kill something if a Clinton/Pelosi ticket won.
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I don't know man. Who finances Jet Skis?Swaye said:This thread taught me that Grundle is smarter than he lets on, and I am quite dumb.
