Kobe claims he was taught the following in school
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So then you were taught the truth.RoadDawg55 said:When I was young, we were taught the Indians and Pilgrams had a nice meal and we did aren’t projects relating to it.
The Wampanoag Indians who attended the first Thanksgiving had occupied the land for thousands of years and were key to the survival of the colonists during the first year they arrived in 1620, according to the National Museum of the American Indian. After the Pilgrims successfully harvested their first crops in autumn 1621, at least 140 people gathered to eat and partake in games, historians say. No one knows exactly what prompted the two groups to dine together, but there were at least 90 native men and 50 Englishmen present, according to Kathleen Wall, a colonial foodways culinarian at Plimoth Plantation. They most likely ran races and shot at marks as forms of entertainment, Wall said. The English likely ate off of tables, while the native people dined on the ground.
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TellingTheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil? -
11th or 12th grade?HuskyJW said:
ThisRoadDawg55 said:When I was young, we were taught the Indians and Pilgrams had a nice meal and we did aren’t projects relating to it.
My turkey crown made from orange and brown construction paper is still talked about -
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite. -
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US. -
YesterdayRaceBannon said:
11th or 12th grade?HuskyJW said:
ThisRoadDawg55 said:When I was young, we were taught the Indians and Pilgrams had a nice meal and we did aren’t projects relating to it.
My turkey crown made from orange and brown construction paper is still talked about -
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Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations? -
Because those countries are empty bags in a legal sense.TurdBomber said:
Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations? -
Compare the life expectancy of African slaves in the Caribbean and South America to the US. I'm not sugar coating slavery in the United States, it was an awful and brutal dehumanizing institution but in comparison to the treatment of slaves in South America it wasn't anywhere near as bad.TurdBomber said:
Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations? -
Especially after the legions of exploitative BIPOC's mined all the Oro out of the region and sent home the booty.Bob_C said:
Because those countries are empty bags in a legal sense.TurdBomber said:
Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations?
But we aren't supposed to talk about that. -
Can we talk about the 5000 freed black slaves who saved up and bought their own African slaves and put them to work in the South?SFGbob said:
Compare the life expectancy of African slaves in the Caribbean and South America to the US. I'm not sugar coating slavery in the United States, it was an awful and brutal dehumanizing institution but in comparison to the treatment of slaves in South America it wasn't anywhere near as bad.TurdBomber said:
Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations?
Never. Do not breathe a word of it. -
We have the chicoms enslaving the Uighurs as we speak and using their slave labor (and a few body parts here and there). But, our public school system is proclaiming the moral superiority of the Chicoms over our Constitutional Republic. Blacks have a lot tougher time in the People's Republic than here in the US. You think they taught that to the Slobberer?SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US. -
The Chinese now use the very same rhetoric that BLM and the Rats use to dump on this country.WestlinnDuck said:
We have the chicoms enslaving the Uighurs as we speak and using their slave labor (and a few body parts here and there). But, our public school system is proclaiming the moral superiority of the Chicoms over our Constitutional Republic. Blacks have a lot tougher time in the People's Republic than here in the US. You think they taught that to the Slobberer?SFGbob said:
There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US. -
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context. -
I thought Kobe died?SFGbob said:I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Is there anyone of you out there who can confirm that you were taught any of this when you were in school? I think I heard the cherry tree story when I was in first grade and even then my teacher, who was an old woman in her 60s, told us the story most likely wasn't true. I was never taught that the Civil War was just about states rights. And the treatment of the American Indians was never whitewashed when I was in school. Now I went to school in the late 60s, 70s and 80s. Well before the hate America leftist crowd took over education and even then I was never taught this crap. -
Unless your family has a magic pot of gold, we can trace all your wealth and privilege back to the slave trade. Why the fuck do you keep talking about it? No one alive today is responsible for it.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context. -
There is no American alive who participated in slavery.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
There is no American alive who was a slave.
Fuck off.
-
It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats forTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.rootingplaying for the away team. -
You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’sTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context. -
As I said, Kobe cares about slavery that happened over 150 years ago and he doesn't give a fuck about slavery that's happening today. Weird how Kobe is once again concerned about the "specifics" and not just the general idea that we're taught all kinds of things that aren't true.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
Speaking of which, who taught you that evolution had nothing to do with genetics Kobe? -
American slave owners weren’t racist, got it.MikeDamone said:
You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’sTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
Unclear why they didn’t just show some personal responsibility and not own slaves but they deserve context, unlike black people. -
Fuck that strawman ass Kobe.TheKobeStopper said:
American slave owners weren’t racist, got it.MikeDamone said:
You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’sTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
Unclear why they didn’t just show some personal responsibility and not own slaves but they deserve context, unlike black people. -
You point them out sparky and we'll punish them 175 year olds!TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context. -
What are you babbling about? This all started because I said the confederacy was bad and you guys couldn’t even let that go.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats forTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.rootingplaying for the away team.
“It’s not an excuse per se” CHRIST. -
And ya’ll still out here defending them.PurpleThrobber said:
There is no American alive who participated in slavery.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
There is no American alive who was a slave.
Fuck off. -
Link?TheKobeStopper said:
And ya’ll still out here defending them.PurpleThrobber said:
There is no American alive who participated in slavery.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
There is no American alive who was a slave.
Fuck off.
Nice Hilary accent btw -
No. this all started because you lied and claimed you were taught a bunch of bullshit you were never taught. You weren't taught that the Civil War was about States Rights. You lied Kunt, just like you always lie.TheKobeStopper said:
What are you babbling about? This all started because I said the confederacy was bad and you guys couldn’t even let that go.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats forTheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.rootingplaying for the away team.
“It’s not an excuse per se” CHRIST. -
Not a single person in this thread has defending the institution of slavery or the people who engaged in it. But you're a light weight and a Kunt so you don't address what people actually say, it's strawman ass rape after strawman ass rape with you Kobe.TheKobeStopper said:
And ya’ll still out here defending them.PurpleThrobber said:
There is no American alive who participated in slavery.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
There is no American alive who was a slave.
Fuck off.
I -
I always carry hot sauce in my purse.RaceBannon said:
Link?TheKobeStopper said:
And ya’ll still out here defending them.PurpleThrobber said:
There is no American alive who participated in slavery.TheKobeStopper said:
Oh, this shit.TurdBomber said:
What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.TheKobeStopper said:
What on earth are you talking about?TurdBomber said:
Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?TheKobeStopper said:
One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.Tequilla said:I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...
You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.
To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.
The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.
Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.
For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.
We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.
Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.
Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
There is no American alive who was a slave.
Fuck off.
Nice Hilary accent btw
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