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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.

    And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
    Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.

    Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations?
    Because those countries are empty bags in a legal sense.
    Especially after the legions of exploitative BIPOC's mined all the Oro out of the region and sent home the booty.

    But we aren't supposed to talk about that.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.

    And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
    Or the fact that 80+ percent of African slaves went to South America, Central America and the Caribbean.

    Why isn't Uruguay paying reparations?
    Compare the life expectancy of African slaves in the Caribbean and South America to the US. I'm not sugar coating slavery in the United States, it was an awful and brutal dehumanizing institution but in comparison to the treatment of slaves in South America it wasn't anywhere near as bad.
    Can we talk about the 5000 freed black slaves who saved up and bought their own African slaves and put them to work in the South?

    Never. Do not breathe a word of it.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,658 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.

    And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
    We have the chicoms enslaving the Uighurs as we speak and using their slave labor (and a few body parts here and there). But, our public school system is proclaiming the moral superiority of the Chicoms over our Constitutional Republic. Blacks have a lot tougher time in the People's Republic than here in the US. You think they taught that to the Slobberer?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    There's slavery that exists in the world today. Do you ever hear Kobe talking about fighting that evil? Much easier to rail against the evils of slavery in the United States that ended over 150 years ago, then to do anything about the slavery that's going on right now in Africa.

    And why is it that slavery in the US, which involved only a tiny fraction of the African slave trade, is the only historical example of slavery the left ever wants to talk about? Do you ever hear them talk about the slavery in the Muslim world that involved way more black slaves than ever came to the US.
    We have the chicoms enslaving the Uighurs as we speak and using their slave labor (and a few body parts here and there). But, our public school system is proclaiming the moral superiority of the Chicoms over our Constitutional Republic. Blacks have a lot tougher time in the People's Republic than here in the US. You think they taught that to the Slobberer?
    The Chinese now use the very same rhetoric that BLM and the Rats use to dump on this country.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
  • TommySQCTommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    SFGbob said:

    I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

    Is there anyone of you out there who can confirm that you were taught any of this when you were in school? I think I heard the cherry tree story when I was in first grade and even then my teacher, who was an old woman in her 60s, told us the story most likely wasn't true. I was never taught that the Civil War was just about states rights. And the treatment of the American Indians was never whitewashed when I was in school. Now I went to school in the late 60s, 70s and 80s. Well before the hate America leftist crowd took over education and even then I was never taught this crap.

    I thought Kobe died?
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    Unless your family has a magic pot of gold, we can trace all your wealth and privilege back to the slave trade. Why the fuck do you keep talking about it? No one alive today is responsible for it.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,658 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats for rooting playing for the away team.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2021

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’s
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917
    edited May 2021

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    As I said, Kobe cares about slavery that happened over 150 years ago and he doesn't give a fuck about slavery that's happening today. Weird how Kobe is once again concerned about the "specifics" and not just the general idea that we're taught all kinds of things that aren't true.

    Speaking of which, who taught you that evolution had nothing to do with genetics Kobe?
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’s
    American slave owners weren’t racist, got it.

    Unclear why they didn’t just show some personal responsibility and not own slaves but they deserve context, unlike black people.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    You should care about what Africa did. Africans weren’t enslaved because they were black, they were enslaved because they were available. The south took advantage of that to fill their labor shortage. For several decades in colonial America free Africans weren’t treated as inferior and had the same social and economic status as other people in the colonies. The racialization of Africans, free and enslaved started in the late 1600’s
    American slave owners weren’t racist, got it.

    Unclear why they didn’t just show some personal responsibility and not own slaves but they deserve context, unlike black people.
    Fuck that strawman ass Kobe.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,401 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    You point them out sparky and we'll punish them 175 year olds!
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats for rooting playing for the away team.
    What are you babbling about? This all started because I said the confederacy was bad and you guys couldn’t even let that go.

    “It’s not an excuse per se” CHRIST.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    There is no American alive who participated in slavery.

    There is no American alive who was a slave.

    Fuck off.

    And ya’ll still out here defending them.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,492 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    There is no American alive who participated in slavery.

    There is no American alive who was a slave.

    Fuck off.

    And ya’ll still out here defending them.
    Link?

    Nice Hilary accent btw
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    It's not an excuse per se. It's an explanation that contrary to the lie of the 1619 Project that the US was not founded on slavery and that is definitely not a uniquely American institution. It's also a lie that in 2021 that white systemic racism has anything to do with problems in the black community. It's racists like you that apparently don't think that blacks can be parents. Black illegitimacy is something that blacks are going to have to confront. Fixing the inner city black school systems can only be done by providing black parents with vouchers and by passing the teacher unions. Of course, the Slobberer isn't interested in results, just black votes for commies. The Slobberer supports the commie BLM movement which has led to hundreds more dead blacks. Congrats for rooting playing for the away team.
    What are you babbling about? This all started because I said the confederacy was bad and you guys couldn’t even let that go.

    “It’s not an excuse per se” CHRIST.
    No. this all started because you lied and claimed you were taught a bunch of bullshit you were never taught. You weren't taught that the Civil War was about States Rights. You lied Kunt, just like you always lie.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917
    edited May 2021

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    There is no American alive who participated in slavery.

    There is no American alive who was a slave.

    Fuck off.

    And ya’ll still out here defending them.
    Not a single person in this thread has defending the institution of slavery or the people who engaged in it. But you're a light weight and a Kunt so you don't address what people actually say, it's strawman ass rape after strawman ass rape with you Kobe.

    I
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
    What I'm talking about is your complete white-washing of one side of the transatlantic slave trade. Most slaves were not actually "sold into slavery." They were already slaves for rival tribes on their home continent, captured in battle, after defeat or just for the fuck of it by more powerful tribesman who didn't want to do the grunt work required to survive in Africa at the time.

    It's funny how you never mention the Walmart angle while chronically bitching about the immorality and evils of the men who shopped there. It's almost as if you're a willfully ignorant shill with gaping holes in your logic and argument.

    Care to discuss the Barbary Pirates sometime? Course not, you fucking ignorant hypocrite.
    Oh, this shit.

    I don’t give a fuck what Africa did, I care what America did. I’m American, America first.

    Your desperation to excuse the actions of Americans because “other people did it too” is pathetic. You guys never shut the fuck about personal responsibility when it’s teenagers selling drugs but oh my god the slave owners deserve context.
    There is no American alive who participated in slavery.

    There is no American alive who was a slave.

    Fuck off.

    And ya’ll still out here defending them.
    Link?

    Nice Hilary accent btw
    I always carry hot sauce in my purse.
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