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Kobe claims he was taught the following in school

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Is there anyone of you out there who can confirm that you were taught any of this when you were in school? I think I heard the cherry tree story when I was in first grade and even then my teacher, who was an old woman in her 60s, told us the story most likely wasn't true. I was never taught that the Civil War was just about states rights. And the treatment of the American Indians was never whitewashed when I was in school. Now I went to school in the late 60s, 70s and 80s. Well before the hate America leftist crowd took over education and even then I was never taught this crap.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,001
    There are so many whack jobs out there teaching, who knows how poor of an education kobe got. Its clear that it wasn't good.

    My kids are both out of college now but their educations in k-12 were excellent. The school district didn't put up with the woke shit, book burnings or the slaughter of our country's history and teach the kids how evil we all are as Americans. I am very thankful we moved into the district we did.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

    Is there anyone of you out there who can confirm that you were taught any of this when you were in school? I think I heard the cherry tree story when I was in first grade and even then my teacher, who was an old woman in her 60s, told us the story most likely wasn't true. I was never taught that the Civil War was just about states rights. And the treatment of the American Indians was never whitewashed when I was in school. Now I went to school in the late 60s, 70s and 80s. Well before the hate America leftist crowd took over education and even then I was never taught this crap.

    So Kobe hasn't learned a single fucking thing since Kindergarten. Got it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    You think Kobe was being taught about the Civil War in kindergarten?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/texas-will-finally-teach-slavery-was-main-cause-civil-war-180970851/

    https://time.com/5725168/thanksgiving-history-lesson/

    Bob, you are the dumbest poster on this bored and it’s not even close. Do your family a favor and kill yourself.

    Don't sell yourself short
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter
    I was also taught that George threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River. That nailed it for me that he was truly a super hero. I may have heard that Lincoln and the Union freed the slaves, but no one in my elementary school believed that sh*t. We knew it was all about tariffs. Drilled into us.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/texas-will-finally-teach-slavery-was-main-cause-civil-war-180970851/

    https://time.com/5725168/thanksgiving-history-lesson/

    Bob, you are the dumbest poster on this bored and it’s not even close. Do your family a favor and kill yourself.

    You claimed you were taught those things Kunt. The claim isn't that someone somewhere was taught those things.

    And being called "dumb" by the fucking racist moron who thinks evolution has nothing to do with genetics really stings Kobe.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/texas-will-finally-teach-slavery-was-main-cause-civil-war-180970851/

    https://time.com/5725168/thanksgiving-history-lesson/

    Bob, you are the dumbest poster on this bored and it’s not even close. Do your family a favor and kill yourself.

    Btw, as usual neither of those links support your fucking mouth. Texas wasn't teaching that slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War and nobody was teaching that the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice meal and nothing else happened. You lied Kunt.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I was also taught that George threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River. That nailed it for me that he was truly a super hero. I may have heard that Lincoln and the Union freed the slaves, but no one in my elementary school believed that sh*t. We knew it was all about tariffs. Drilled into us.

    I was taught that Washington was the Father of the Country. Obviously he wasn't therefore they lied.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    I learned that God created America for the white man, which is why all acts of racism and attempts at genocide by them are justified. That was way back in the 1990s, though. It was a different time.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,001

    SFGbob said:

    I was also taught that George threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River. That nailed it for me that he was truly a super hero. I may have heard that Lincoln and the Union freed the slaves, but no one in my elementary school believed that sh*t. We knew it was all about tariffs. Drilled into us.

    I was taught that Washington was the Father of the Country. Obviously he wasn't therefore they lied.
    I know realize that the US was founded on the basis of Islamic Muslims and Indians.
    I was always told that Charmin was the softest. What a pile of shit that was.

    https://www.yourbestdigs.com/reviews/best-toilet-paper/#:~:text=Quilted Northern – Ultra Plush is the softest toilet paper of,stand-in for facial tissue

    Cottonelle takes the crown, narrowly beating runner-ups Quilted Northern and Charmin – Ultra Strong when we combined both lab tests and user surveys.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/texas-will-finally-teach-slavery-was-main-cause-civil-war-180970851/

    https://time.com/5725168/thanksgiving-history-lesson/

    Bob, you are the dumbest poster on this bored and it’s not even close. Do your family a favor and kill yourself.

    Smithsonian. Impressive. Same folks who brought us this.
    Terrible values of Whiteness must be eradicated to please @TheKobeStopper.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,582 Standard Supporter
    Hard work? Racist!
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/texas-will-finally-teach-slavery-was-main-cause-civil-war-180970851/

    https://time.com/5725168/thanksgiving-history-lesson/

    Bob, you are the dumbest poster on this bored and it’s not even close. Do your family a favor and kill yourself.

    You’re from Texas?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    I was taught that illegal immigration was about state's rights
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,582 Standard Supporter
    I didn't know non-white folks had slaves until college
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    I was taught the food pyramid was the healthiest way to eat. And an ice age was imminent. Also, the world would be out of oil by 1990 and there would be a mass starvation event. However, I was never taught the civil war was about states rights.

    This is just the point I originally made, that we get taught things that aren’t true. Bob’s fixation with the specifics of what exactly was taught, predictably, misses the point.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    I’d recommend you do a little review of history when it comes to owning human beings and all the variations that looked like.

    Indentured servitude was real and ugly but will never hit the current mainstream talking points as readily as slavery. This isn’t trying to claim that one was “better” than the other ... both were terrible and fortunately they’ve both been long rooted out of American society.

    Long winded way of saying that if you look back on activities 160+ years ago through the lease of today your going to be missing context. To understand the issues at the time you have to understand why it was what it was at that point. You have to be willing to ask yourself why slavery existed? You have to be willing to ask yourself why indentured servitude existed well over 200+ years ago.

    The world then was far different than it is today. Thankfully we continue to evolve and have evolved significantly. Think about it this way ... a child born at the end of the Civil War could have been a great grandchild born in the 1930s ... who is a great grandparent to a child born today. Let’s hope that by the time that child born today becomes a great grandparent the world has continued to significantly evolve for the better.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    I spent a ton of time reading and learning about the Civil War as a teenager ...

    You can’t separate the issues of the late 1850s and leading into the Civil War time period without slavery being a massive issue.

    To say it was the only issue though is missing the point a bit.

    The Northern states at that point were far more industrial and the South far more agriculturally based. Trying to find common ground was virtually impossible. Slavery obviously the most focal part of the disagreements.

    Then far more than now the importance of State’s rights was a paramount issue. To understand that you have to understand the principles as to how the nation was founded and why certain separations and protections were built in to ensure states had influence to keep the federal government from overstepping.

    For those that need perspective, understand that Robert E. Lee made his decision on which side to serve on based on the direction of his state. Times have changed obviously.

    We also need to understand the lessons of history. We have evolved throughout history but basic principles remain. Knowing how to avoid those pitfalls matters. As a country, we’d be well served right now to understand lessons of the past.

    One side betrayed their country and fought a war, that killed 2% of the population, to own human beings. Your centrist “well if you look at both sides” bullshit is not necessary.

    I don’t know why they didn’t hold hands, sing kumbaya and drop bombs on foreign countries to settle it like moderates. But sometimes you have to actually fight evil and not just hate both extremes (owning slaves and not owning slaves being the “extremes” in this example”).
    Which was more evil, @TheKobeStopper: Capturing slaves who look just like you and selling them? Or buying them?

    I'm sure it's painful to look at both sides, but weren't both sides deeply involved in that evil?
    What on earth are you talking about?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited May 2021

    I was taught the food pyramid was the healthiest way to eat. And an ice age was imminent. Also, the world would be out of oil by 1990 and there would be a mass starvation event. However, I was never taught the civil war was about states rights.

    This is just the point I originally made, that we get taught things that aren’t true. Bob’s fixation with the specifics of what exactly was taught, predictably, misses the point.
    Translation: I talked out my ass and was called on it, after initially trying to support my bullshit claims with some links that didn't support my bullshit claims, I now want to change the subject and talk about how in general we're taught things that aren't true and not about the "specifics" that I brought up.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,260

    When I was young, we were taught the Indians and Pilgrams had a nice meal and we did aren’t projects relating to it.

    This

    My turkey crown made from orange and brown construction paper is still talked about