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  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,060
    WestlinnDuck said:

    trublue said:

    Highly unionized employees . . . Had to bust up a poker game for a few minutes to have the Porter get sheets for my bed. He was irate cuz it was supposed to have been done by another employee in LA.

    Simply, the trip through hell.

    I can’t imagine taking coach for 30 hours.

    Only a slight upgrade from Greyhound.

    This was over 35 years ago . . .

    One and done.

    When I was 17 our high school Spanish club went to Mexico for a month at a Spanish school for US students. Took Greyhound to Mexico. What a cluster phuck. First night bunch of drunk guys in the back that got dropped off in the middle of nowhere at about 3 AM. Our high school teacher after a week down in Saltillo got threatened by his wife with divorce if he didn't come home. After consultation with the parents, they decided to leave me in charge of six other teenagers. So, I led our intrepid squad after the four weeks, back to Portland from Saltillo, Mexico via bus. You think that sh*t would happen today. I hate Greyhound.
    What year did you graduate from West Linn?
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,488 Standard Supporter
    I’d love a HS rail system that runs I-5 and I-90, but how feasible is it?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,610 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    I’d love a HS rail system that runs I-5 and I-90, but how feasible is it?

    10 or 20 trillion feasible. The left needs there cut which is 90%.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club
    If you didn't get the right away and lay the rail in the 1800s forget it. That's problem 1 with the California HSR. Nobody wants it running through their hood. That's why they have Bakersfield to Fresno or whatever. NOGAF
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,610 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    If you didn't get the right away and lay the rail in the 1800s forget it. That's problem 1 with the California HSR. Nobody wants it running through their hood. That's why they have Bakersfield to Fresno or whatever. NOGAF

    Few actual humans in Bakerfield or Fresno.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,680
    Sledog said:

    thechatch said:

    I’d love a HS rail system that runs I-5 and I-90, but how feasible is it?

    10 or 20 trillion feasible. The left needs there cut which is 90%.
    10 to the big guy first imo
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,488 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    If you didn't get the right away and lay the rail in the 1800s forget it. That's problem 1 with the California HSR. Nobody wants it running through their hood. That's why they have Bakersfield to Fresno or whatever. NOGAF

    I get it. How much land adjacent to I-5 infringes on private property to the extent that use comp/eminent domain isn’t a workable path forward? I have very little knowledge in this realm, tbh.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,917 Standard Supporter
    longduckdong said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    trublue said:

    Highly unionized employees . . . Had to bust up a poker game for a few minutes to have the Porter get sheets for my bed. He was irate cuz it was supposed to have been done by another employee in LA.

    Simply, the trip through hell.

    I can’t imagine taking coach for 30 hours.

    Only a slight upgrade from Greyhound.

    This was over 35 years ago . . .

    One and done.

    When I was 17 our high school Spanish club went to Mexico for a month at a Spanish school for US students. Took Greyhound to Mexico. What a cluster phuck. First night bunch of drunk guys in the back that got dropped off in the middle of nowhere at about 3 AM. Our high school teacher after a week down in Saltillo got threatened by his wife with divorce if he didn't come home. After consultation with the parents, they decided to leave me in charge of six other teenagers. So, I led our intrepid squad after the four weeks, back to Portland from Saltillo, Mexico via bus. You think that sh*t would happen today. I hate Greyhound.
    What year did you graduate from West Linn?
    Actually graduated from Aloha High School in 1972. We had a gun range at school and kids took their 22 match rifles to school on the bus. Pheasants were still in the valley and kids brought their shotguns to school in their trunks and then off to the fields after school. Good times.
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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,082 Standard Supporter
    They sent it over to the 99 route to hit Bakersfield and Fresno on purpose. They wanted to make those areas commuteable
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    RaceBannon said:

    If you didn't get the right away and lay the rail in the 1800s forget it. That's problem 1 with the California HSR. Nobody wants it running through their hood. That's why they have Bakersfield to Fresno or whatever. NOGAF

    So I take the train down to Bakersfield from Fresno because I have work down there for the day. I get into Bakersfield and I have no car, so I have to rent a car when I get there. Now why wouldn't I just drive there in the first place? The "high speed" train in California is the biggest public works boondoggle ever. It was never going to be "high" speed, and nobody will ride it. They now have billions in cost overruns and they haven't even started construction on the most difficult sections. They are building now in areas that are flat and straight. There is no way in hell that train ever gets built but plenty of connected construction companies will get very wealthy "working" on it.
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