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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,690

    European rail travel is good. Probably the only thing these cucks do well.

    Getting from Seattle to Spokane in 3 hours or less with multiple departure times. For $30. Also fast cheap trains to Leavenworth, Wenatchee, Yakima, ellensburg, etc.

    Sounds like transportation racism imo
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,095 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    Why? It's a fucking boondoggle that wouldn't survive without Federal subsidies. Train travel is slow and unreliable. If they market doesn't support it why should the government?
    My reason for support is that not everyone likes to fly and if you took away the support for airlines from the feds they would fail too.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,095 Standard Supporter
    trublue said:

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    Take a trip on Amtrak from Los Angeles to Portland (30 hours) and get back to me. Doesn’t matter whether it is coach or with a roomette.

    It can be expanded “fairly cheaply” . . . Surely you jest!!!
    Done it numerous times... been over the whole US on the train. In sleeper it isn't cheap, but there is some amazing scenery.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,095 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    trublue said:

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    Take a trip on Amtrak from Los Angeles to Portland (30 hours) and get back to me. Doesn’t matter whether it is coach or with a roomette.

    It can be expanded “fairly cheaply” . . . Surely you jest!!!
    If time is not an issue and you don't mind unscheduled stops and sitting on a train for 30 hours when a flight would take you 2 it's great. Oh yeah, the fact that Amtrak actually loses money on every rail line they operate outside of the DC to Boston, NYC, Philly corridor is another bonus.
    They actually lose a ton on the NEC when you count maintenance. That's where 90% of the subsidy goes.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited May 2021
    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    Take a trip on Amtrak from Los Angeles to Portland (30 hours) and get back to me. Doesn’t matter whether it is coach or with a roomette.

    It can be expanded “fairly cheaply” . . . Surely you jest!!!
    Done it numerous times... been over the whole US on the train. In sleeper it isn't cheap, but there is some amazing scenery.
    I stayed in a roomette (sofa that folds down into a bed). I pulled the window “shade” down after a couple of hours. No one was able to get it back up the rest of the trip.

    You’ve traveled around the country in Coach?

    C’mon, man. Seriously?
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,095 Standard Supporter
    Coach no sleeper yea
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,208 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    I used to love the NY to DC train. It is one area that kind of makes sense for rail. I am ;sure it is not making money, but to sit there, use their internet and get work done was nice.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,963 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    Why? It's a fucking boondoggle that wouldn't survive without Federal subsidies. Train travel is slow and unreliable. If they market doesn't support it why should the government?
    My reason for support is that not everyone likes to fly and if you took away the support for airlines from the feds they would fail too.
    What support for the airlines - pre chicom crud?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited May 2021

    Goduckies said:

    trublue said:

    Expanding Amtrak is “Building Back Better” . . . “Biggest bang for the buck we can expend(?).”

    OMG

    Insanity prevails . . .

    I am a fan of expanding Amtrak, it can be done fairly cheaply compared to building HSR... but the California HSR is just stupid
    I used to love the NY to DC train. It is one area that kind of makes sense for rail. I am ;sure it is not making money, but to sit there, use their internet and get work done was nice.
    That northeast corridor is about the only place where a train makes sense.