A Q for the bored
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sounds like some university needs a grant so they can study the poasters of Hardcore Husky.HuskyJW said:I'm sure there might be some that have the sentiment "poor kid never stood a chance." Maybe even a grain of truth to it.....but you're older now and you know it's wrong.
MikeDamone said:
So no sympathy if the trauma caused by the molestation caused the victim to become a molester?HuskyJW said:There isn't anything lower than hurting a child. But if you follow the same path and you know the pain and trauma it causes.....then I hope you DIAFF.
That being said....My Doog quote of the day....I'd rather my 4 year old son showers at Penn State then go to UO.
What should be done with molestation victims?
I found this in a study
"Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood."
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I agree that most molesters including the older Sandusky were molested themselves but I don't have sympathy for molesters. They need to learn how to exhibit self control over their urges, no matter how strong. Most if not all molesters know what they are doing is wrong and feel guilt to borderline suicidal after committing the horrific acts.MikeDamone said:I read that Sandusky's son is going go on Oprah and tell about how he was abused by Sandusky. It got me thinking... It is known that victims of abuse often become abusers. Would there be any sympathy if any of Sandusky's victims were ever identified as molesters themselves? If Sandusky was a victim of abuse would there be any sympathy for him?
I wonder because obviously child molesters are vilified and we wish nothing but a cruel and painful death for them, and their victims are treated very sympathetically and with great care. When victim turns into victimizer due to the abuse, is sympathy given to the victim negated?
After all Many of us non-molesters have about busted our waistbands when being around a hot treat whose 16 going on 25 and a little flirty. But we didn't act upon that urge because a) the potential 15-20 and b) It's just not right in our culture.
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16 is legal is some States. Just sayin'.salemcoog said:
I agree that most molesters including the older Sandusky were molested themselves but I don't have sympathy for molesters. They need to learn how to exhibit self control over their urges, no matter how strong. Most if not all molesters know what they are doing is wrong and feel guilt to borderline suicidal after committing the horrific acts.MikeDamone said:I read that Sandusky's son is going go on Oprah and tell about how he was abused by Sandusky. It got me thinking... It is known that victims of abuse often become abusers. Would there be any sympathy if any of Sandusky's victims were ever identified as molesters themselves? If Sandusky was a victim of abuse would there be any sympathy for him?
I wonder because obviously child molesters are vilified and we wish nothing but a cruel and painful death for them, and their victims are treated very sympathetically and with great care. When victim turns into victimizer due to the abuse, is sympathy given to the victim negated?
After all Many of us non-molesters have about busted our waistbands when being around a hot treat whose 16 going on 25 and a little flirty. But we didn't act upon that urge because a) the potential 15-20 and b) It's just not right in our culture.
For a molester there is help for their urges. They just need to have the guts to face up to their condition and get the help. -
Damone for Governor.
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Serious answer: I think that evidence that a perpetrator was molested as a child should be admitted as "evidence in mitigation" on sentencing and should be considered for that purpose.
The problem is, however, that treatment programs for pedophiles are notoriously ineffective and pedophiles have extremely high recividism rates. So, if you're looking to rehabilitate the offender or protect society, you don't really get much from mitigation for abused pedos.
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Simple solution. Amputate the penis and nutsack after the first offense. Give them to someone who really needs some balls. Problem solved.
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TheGlove said:
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Take this molestor shit to the Jesuit board where it belongs.
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I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.allpurpleallgold said:
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.dflea said:
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.Swaye said:But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
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I blame guns.MikeDamone said:
So no sympathy if the trauma caused by the molestation caused the victim to become a molester?HuskyJW said:There isn't anything lower than hurting a child. But if you follow the same path and you know the pain and trauma it causes.....then I hope you DIAFF.
That being said....My Doog quote of the day....I'd rather my 4 year old son showers at Penn State then go to UO.
What should be done with molestation victims?
I found this in a study
"Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood."
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