But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
wtf? I must be half-buzzed to type all that....................
Speaking of baggage ...
If I've learned anything from being on these forums for 15 years or so it's you're one angry mother fucker.
Serious answer: I think that evidence that a perpetrator was molested as a child should be admitted as "evidence in mitigation" on sentencing and should be considered for that purpose.
The problem is, however, that treatment programs for pedophiles are notoriously ineffective and pedophiles have extremely high recividism rates. So, if you're looking to rehabilitate the offender or protect society, you don't really get much from mitigation for abused pedos.
All of a sudden the rate of pedos who were molestered as children just shot up to 100%.
It's hard enough to discern whether sexual abuse has happened recently, it's damn near impossible to go back 40 or 50 years and determine whether someone was molestered or is just playing the molestered card for a lighter sentence.
Not to mention, the penalties for molestation are already far too soft as it is. I just can't see this being any real benefit in our current system, especially with what you've noted about recidivism.
With child predators three strikes in one too many. Try to rehabilitate them once, during their LONG prison sentence, and if they slip up again, life without parole. Done with it. No more chance of them playing hide the weenie with pre-teens. Fuckasses.
What about women abusers? Any difference?
Never compared the two mentally. I guess I feel child molesters are worse than women abusers. So maybe the abusers get three strikes. Who knows? But fuck the child molesters. Or something.
I meant women child molesters. Any difference in how they should be punished vs. male? Should a 25 female abuser of a 13 year old boy get the same punishment as a 40 year old male abuser of a 13 year old boy? What if the victim is a 15 year old girl? Or a 15 year old boy? Does it matter?
I say no.. Any adult having sex with someone under the age of consent in the state should get be treated the same way regardless of the age or gender or them or their victim?
I say guys who wish a 25 year old female teacher would have had sex with them when they were 14 don't have any idea the long term damage that can be caused by that. Nice fantasy, but in reality not so much...
agree
Still scarred by the Hot For Teacher video. Damned near blind because of it.
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
wtf? I must be half-buzzed to type all that....................
Speaking of baggage ...
If I've learned anything from being on these forums for 15 years or so it's you're one angry mother fucker.
I don't know if it's baggage or just not having my head in my ass, but yeah, I guess lots of things anger me.
Like my university thinking it's ok to hire a shitweasel like Sark, like my university being full of fags =75k = who defend that asswipe. Like chi-mo's ruining the lives of children. Like the government pissing away my tax dollars like they fall out of trees instead of getting earned. Like left-lane camping assholes, and assholes who change lanes 15 times to gain 5 yards. Like my insurance company raising my rates for getting one speeding ticket in 25 years. Like thug warlords who kidnap little girls - and like the world for thinking a handful of little girls is more important than hundreds of thousands of others getting killed needlessly around the world. Like the government thinking they should be in the business of naming sports franchises, and deciding who owns them based on the owners' personal beliefs.
Don't those things make you angry, Mike? I guess I could just accept them and not be angered, but that would be like taking my sack off and having my wife keep it in her purse.
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
wtf? I must be half-buzzed to type all that....................
Speaking of baggage ...
If I've learned anything from being on these forums for 15 years or so it's you're one angry mother fucker.
Serious answer: I think that evidence that a perpetrator was molested as a child should be admitted as "evidence in mitigation" on sentencing and should be considered for that purpose.
The problem is, however, that treatment programs for pedophiles are notoriously ineffective and pedophiles have extremely high recividism rates. So, if you're looking to rehabilitate the offender or protect society, you don't really get much from mitigation for abused pedos.
All of a sudden the rate of pedos who were molestered as children just shot up to 100%.
It's hard enough to discern whether sexual abuse has happened recently, it's damn near impossible to go back 40 or 50 years and determine whether someone was molestered or is just playing the molestered card for a lighter sentence.
Not to mention, the penalties for molestation are already far too soft as it is. I just can't see this being any real benefit in our current system, especially with what you've noted about recidivism.
With child predators three strikes in one too many. Try to rehabilitate them once, during their LONG prison sentence, and if they slip up again, life without parole. Done with it. No more chance of them playing hide the weenie with pre-teens. Fuckasses.
What about women abusers? Any difference?
Never compared the two mentally. I guess I feel child molesters are worse than women abusers. So maybe the abusers get three strikes. Who knows? But fuck the child molesters. Or something.
I meant women child molesters. Any difference in how they should be punished vs. male? Should a 25 female abuser of a 13 year old boy get the same punishment as a 40 year old male abuser of a 13 year old boy? What if the victim is a 15 year old girl? Or a 15 year old boy? Does it matter?
I say no.. Any adult having sex with someone under the age of consent in the state should get be treated the same way regardless of the age or gender or them or their victim?
I say guys who wish a 25 year old female teacher would have had sex with them when they were 14 don't have any idea the long term damage that can be caused by that. Nice fantasy, but in reality not so much...
Depends on how hot said female teacher is. It's not molesting if she's an 8/10 or above.
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
wtf? I must be half-buzzed to type all that....................
Speaking of baggage ...
If I've learned anything from being on these forums for 15 years or so it's you're one angry mother fucker.
Serious answer: I think that evidence that a perpetrator was molested as a child should be admitted as "evidence in mitigation" on sentencing and should be considered for that purpose.
The problem is, however, that treatment programs for pedophiles are notoriously ineffective and pedophiles have extremely high recividism rates. So, if you're looking to rehabilitate the offender or protect society, you don't really get much from mitigation for abused pedos.
All of a sudden the rate of pedos who were molestered as children just shot up to 100%.
It's hard enough to discern whether sexual abuse has happened recently, it's damn near impossible to go back 40 or 50 years and determine whether someone was molestered or is just playing the molestered card for a lighter sentence.
Not to mention, the penalties for molestation are already far too soft as it is. I just can't see this being any real benefit in our current system, especially with what you've noted about recidivism.
With child predators three strikes in one too many. Try to rehabilitate them once, during their LONG prison sentence, and if they slip up again, life without parole. Done with it. No more chance of them playing hide the weenie with pre-teens. Fuckasses.
What about women abusers? Any difference?
Never compared the two mentally. I guess I feel child molesters are worse than women abusers. So maybe the abusers get three strikes. Who knows? But fuck the child molesters. Or something.
I meant women child molesters. Any difference in how they should be punished vs. male? Should a 25 female abuser of a 13 year old boy get the same punishment as a 40 year old male abuser of a 13 year old boy? What if the victim is a 15 year old girl? Or a 15 year old boy? Does it matter?
I say no.. Any adult having sex with someone under the age of consent in the state should get be treated the same way regardless of the age or gender or them or their victim?
I say guys who wish a 25 year old female teacher would have had sex with them when they were 14 don't have any idea the long term damage that can be caused by that. Nice fantasy, but in reality not so much...
Depends on how hot said female teacher is. It's not molesting if she's an 8/10 or above.
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
I don't need to do anything because I'm not a judge. The explaining part is for the sentencing phase of the trial. Let's say the perp gets half the sentence he otherwise would is he can produce evidence he was abused.
Explain it all you want, I don't give a fuck. People get handed baggage every day of their lives - some of it is heavy, some isn't. Whether you carry that baggage with you is your choice. The fact that the majority of those abused DO NOT become abusers proves it. It's just like kids whose parents knocked the crap out of them are more likely to do the same to their kids...........because they're still packing the baggage from their childhood. Well, there are plenty of parents who were knocked around that DON'T knock their kids around. They are parents that set that bag down and did what they knew was right, not what was done to them.
It's like I said...............every motherfucker has an excuse. Just ask them. If you had a kid that was abused, I think your sympathy meter might swing the other way, regardless if the abuser was abused.
wtf? I must be half-buzzed to type all that....................
Speaking of baggage ...
If I've learned anything from being on these forums for 15 years or so it's you're one angry mother fucker.
Serious answer: I think that evidence that a perpetrator was molested as a child should be admitted as "evidence in mitigation" on sentencing and should be considered for that purpose.
The problem is, however, that treatment programs for pedophiles are notoriously ineffective and pedophiles have extremely high recividism rates. So, if you're looking to rehabilitate the offender or protect society, you don't really get much from mitigation for abused pedos.
All of a sudden the rate of pedos who were molestered as children just shot up to 100%.
It's hard enough to discern whether sexual abuse has happened recently, it's damn near impossible to go back 40 or 50 years and determine whether someone was molestered or is just playing the molestered card for a lighter sentence.
Not to mention, the penalties for molestation are already far too soft as it is. I just can't see this being any real benefit in our current system, especially with what you've noted about recidivism.
With child predators three strikes in one too many. Try to rehabilitate them once, during their LONG prison sentence, and if they slip up again, life without parole. Done with it. No more chance of them playing hide the weenie with pre-teens. Fuckasses.
What about women abusers? Any difference?
Never compared the two mentally. I guess I feel child molesters are worse than women abusers. So maybe the abusers get three strikes. Who knows? But fuck the child molesters. Or something.
I meant women child molesters. Any difference in how they should be punished vs. male? Should a 25 female abuser of a 13 year old boy get the same punishment as a 40 year old male abuser of a 13 year old boy? What if the victim is a 15 year old girl? Or a 15 year old boy? Does it matter?
I say no.. Any adult having sex with someone under the age of consent in the state should get be treated the same way regardless of the age or gender or them or their victim?
I say guys who wish a 25 year old female teacher would have had sex with them when they were 14 don't have any idea the long term damage that can be caused by that. Nice fantasy, but in reality not so much...
agree
Still scarred by the Hot For Teacher video. Damned near blind because of it.
You beat me to the Van Halen tie in. I hate myself now. Dick.
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Like my university thinking it's ok to hire a shitweasel like Sark, like my university being full of fags =75k = who defend that asswipe. Like chi-mo's ruining the lives of children. Like the government pissing away my tax dollars like they fall out of trees instead of getting earned. Like left-lane camping assholes, and assholes who change lanes 15 times to gain 5 yards. Like my insurance company raising my rates for getting one speeding ticket in 25 years. Like thug warlords who kidnap little girls - and like the world for thinking a handful of little girls is more important than hundreds of thousands of others getting killed needlessly around the world. Like the government thinking they should be in the business of naming sports franchises, and deciding who owns them based on the owners' personal beliefs.
Don't those things make you angry, Mike? I guess I could just accept them and not be angered, but that would be like taking my sack off and having my wife keep it in her purse.