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For the Bitcoin Bros - $400,000 in 2021?

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,313 Standard Supporter

    The price of it is so high that you have to put a ton of money in it to make much off of it. I bought some the other day (very small amount) more as a hedge on what's going on with the USD and concern about global currency, etc.

    If it goes up to 400? What odds do we? need for that to happen before you roll $60,000? Unless I'm misunderstanding ... you need $60k for one bitcoin, right?
    Yeah, $60+k right now for one coin. If I had a million in the bank $60k would still be too big a risk to me. I don't have the funds to do much gambling versus long-term security right now.

    This is what people misunderstand. Bitcoin is the long term safety net. It's the hedge against countries with insane monetary policies, including ours. At a minimum it will continue to eat gold's market share of the store of value market but it's the hedge against the psychotic MMT promoters too.
    THIS is about as good an explanation for why I should do it that I've seen. Still, I feel like I just really don't understand it enough and it would be a complete leap of faith.

  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    jecornel said:

    Think of crypto as the wood coin or dial up for internet.

    Blockchain solving all kinds of things like supply chain problems, health records and it can fix voting but who wants that!

    It will change a ton of shit.


    The price of it is so high that you have to put a ton of money in it to make much off of it. I bought some the other day (very small amount) more as a hedge on what's going on with the USD and concern about global currency, etc.

    If it goes up to 400? What odds do we? need for that to happen before you roll $60,000? Unless I'm misunderstanding ... you need $60k for one bitcoin, right?
    Yeah, $60+k right now for one coin. If I had a million in the bank $60k would still be too big a risk to me. I don't have the funds to do much gambling versus long-term security right now.

    This is what people misunderstand. Bitcoin is the long term safety net. It's the hedge against countries with insane monetary policies, including ours. At a minimum it will continue to eat gold's market share of the store of value market but it's the hedge against the psychotic MMT promoters too.
    THIS is about as good an explanation for why I should do it that I've seen. Still, I feel like I just really don't understand it enough and it would be a complete leap of faith.
    I strongly recommend listening to this podcast episode ‘Bitcoin, not blockchain’ to fully grasp the difference between blockchain for title/medical records/property that does not exist explicitly in the blockchain itself and Bitcoin. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7rdDV85mbLwIWjnusl9ZU4?si=gY5ABJ94RiOZi0tCz0xnxA

    Blockchain in the context of Bitcoin is far far more important than anything else implemented with a blockchain. Scammers will use blockchain as a buzzword to take your money and buy more Bitcoin with it.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Or for those that read good, the article at unchained capital https://unchained-capital.com/blog/bitcoin-not-blockchain/
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,124 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    Think of crypto as the wood coin or dial up for internet.

    Blockchain solving all kinds of things like supply chain problems, health records and it can fix voting but who wants that!

    It will change a ton of shit.


    The price of it is so high that you have to put a ton of money in it to make much off of it. I bought some the other day (very small amount) more as a hedge on what's going on with the USD and concern about global currency, etc.

    If it goes up to 400? What odds do we? need for that to happen before you roll $60,000? Unless I'm misunderstanding ... you need $60k for one bitcoin, right?
    Yeah, $60+k right now for one coin. If I had a million in the bank $60k would still be too big a risk to me. I don't have the funds to do much gambling versus long-term security right now.

    This is what people misunderstand. Bitcoin is the long term safety net. It's the hedge against countries with insane monetary policies, including ours. At a minimum it will continue to eat gold's market share of the store of value market but it's the hedge against the psychotic MMT promoters too.
    THIS is about as good an explanation for why I should do it that I've seen. Still, I feel like I just really don't understand it enough and it would be a complete leap of faith.
    Block chain will have more of an impact than crypto currency.

    Already in discussion on a couple applications with some folk.

  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    I was so convinced crypto was this generation’s tulip craze. I’m kicking myself for not buying a little early on just for funsies.

    Fuck me and my overly conservative investment strategies.

    Same. I had a friend go in heavy in 2017 but I thought it was too late because it was already mainstream. He told me I would regret not buying some. I was taught or at least self taught to think that once the average Joe finds out about something it’s too late.
    I keep praying to the financial gods that I’ll just blunder my way into something on big on the ground floor like a lot of these rich assholes.

    One of the wealthiest people I know admitted to me, “yes, I worked hard...but a lot of it was just being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.”

    Essential Markets
    Target Growth
    Cyber Camps
    Web Pe
    MyWallet

    there's a few more I'm missing. In 1999-2000, I clamored to get in and ended up with a nice tax write off.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068
    Baseman said:

    I was so convinced crypto was this generation’s tulip craze. I’m kicking myself for not buying a little early on just for funsies.

    Fuck me and my overly conservative investment strategies.

    Same. I had a friend go in heavy in 2017 but I thought it was too late because it was already mainstream. He told me I would regret not buying some. I was taught or at least self taught to think that once the average Joe finds out about something it’s too late.
    I keep praying to the financial gods that I’ll just blunder my way into something on big on the ground floor like a lot of these rich assholes.

    One of the wealthiest people I know admitted to me, “yes, I worked hard...but a lot of it was just being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.”

    Essential Markets
    Target Growth
    Cyber Camps
    Web Pe
    MyWallet

    there's a few more I'm missing. In 1999-2000, I clamored to get in and ended up with a nice tax write off.
    don't get me started on the dot.coms everybody was all lathered up about. Terabeam, Drugstore, HomeGrocer ....
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    I was so convinced crypto was this generation’s tulip craze. I’m kicking myself for not buying a little early on just for funsies.

    Fuck me and my overly conservative investment strategies.

    Same. I had a friend go in heavy in 2017 but I thought it was too late because it was already mainstream. He told me I would regret not buying some. I was taught or at least self taught to think that once the average Joe finds out about something it’s too late.
    I keep praying to the financial gods that I’ll just blunder my way into something on big on the ground floor like a lot of these rich assholes.

    One of the wealthiest people I know admitted to me, “yes, I worked hard...but a lot of it was just being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.”

    Essential Markets
    Target Growth
    Cyber Camps
    Web Pe
    MyWallet

    there's a few more I'm missing. In 1999-2000, I clamored to get in and ended up with a nice tax write off.
    don't get me started on the dot.coms everybody was all lathered up about. Terabeam, Drugstore, HomeGrocer ....
    WebVan...Pets.com...I wrote checks, lost $
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    Baseman said:

    I was so convinced crypto was this generation’s tulip craze. I’m kicking myself for not buying a little early on just for funsies.

    Fuck me and my overly conservative investment strategies.

    Same. I had a friend go in heavy in 2017 but I thought it was too late because it was already mainstream. He told me I would regret not buying some. I was taught or at least self taught to think that once the average Joe finds out about something it’s too late.
    I keep praying to the financial gods that I’ll just blunder my way into something on big on the ground floor like a lot of these rich assholes.

    One of the wealthiest people I know admitted to me, “yes, I worked hard...but a lot of it was just being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.”

    Essential Markets
    Target Growth
    Cyber Camps
    Web Pe
    MyWallet

    there's a few more I'm missing. In 1999-2000, I clamored to get in and ended up with a nice tax write off.
    don't get me started on the dot.coms everybody was all lathered up about. Terabeam, Drugstore, HomeGrocer ....


    That was my big one.

    But truth be told I was right...it was just many years later and called Amazon Prime Now. 😅
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Put your 60k in Vechain (VET)
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited April 2021
    jecornel said:

    Put your 60k in Vechain (VET)

    Why? Coinbase doesn't offer.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Loved Home Grocer 🍑 and Kosmo as a customer.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    I read that you didn’t have to pony up the whole share price for Bitcoin? You could get in with even $500?

    If so, Is that a situation where you get eaten alive by fees and/or get less gains than those that own whole coins?
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    You can buy a dollar of Bitcoin. Coinbase fees are minimal. Voyager does not charge any fees.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    About a year ago, when Covid was looking especially grim, yahoo reported another SEC AML crackdown was imminent for crypto with this article https://www.moneylaunderingnews.com/2020/03/treasury-report-targets-money-laundering-risks-in-real-estate-and-gatekeeper-professions/
    BTC went on sale shortly after (probably a response to covis more than the report itself.
    Before:


    Within days of the report there was a sizeable selloff


    And this chart shows that it was merely a sale at the time.


    Not financial advice, but it’s worth considering keeping an eye on and maybe grabbing a few extra sats.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    My huge Bitcoin investment went like this:

    1. Grab the loose change jar and take it to QFC
    2. Dump the change into the Coinstar machine.
    3. Get a $60 credit
    4. Realize I chose the wrong grocery store Coinstar to buy Bitcoin
    5. Cash out the credit
    6. Drive to Safeway and put the $60 into another Coinstar machine and buy like .0008477595927267474737374891 of Bitcoin
    7. Profit!

    My $60 is now worth a whopping $90 something.

    Still not sure I want to put any REAL money into crypto tho. As many of you have said, I don’t really GET it.

    Are there crypto mutual funds?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    My huge Bitcoin investment went like this:

    1. Grab the loose change jar and take it to QFC
    2. Dump the change into the Coinstar machine.
    3. Get a $60 credit
    4. Realize I chose the wrong grocery store Coinstar to buy Bitcoin
    5. Cash out the credit
    6. Drive to Safeway and put the $60 into another Coinstar machine and buy like .0008477595927267474737374891 of Bitcoin
    7. Profit!

    My $60 is now worth a whopping $90 something.

    Still not sure I want to put any REAL money into crypto tho. As many of you have said, I don’t really GET it.

    Are there crypto mutual funds?

    Agreed; except I’m considering Doogcoin. Getting in early. It’s going to blow ... up.

    @Baseman @GrundleStiltzkin any sponsoring comments?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited April 2021

    My huge Bitcoin investment went like this:

    1. Grab the loose change jar and take it to QFC
    2. Dump the change into the Coinstar machine.
    3. Get a $60 credit
    4. Realize I chose the wrong grocery store Coinstar to buy Bitcoin
    5. Cash out the credit
    6. Drive to Safeway and put the $60 into another Coinstar machine and buy like .0008477595927267474737374891 of Bitcoin
    7. Profit!

    My $60 is now worth a whopping $90 something.

    Still not sure I want to put any REAL money into crypto tho. As many of you have said, I don’t really GET it.

    Are there crypto mutual funds?

    Agreed; except I’m considering Doogcoin. Getting in early. It’s going to blow ... up.

    @Baseman @GrundleStiltzkin any sponsoring comments?
    Coogcoin was a good investment for a few years. It always crashed hard around Thanksgiving though. After the first 7 times you’d think one would sell before then. But Coogs gotta Coog.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068
    Kaepsknee said:

    My huge Bitcoin investment went like this:

    1. Grab the loose change jar and take it to QFC
    2. Dump the change into the Coinstar machine.
    3. Get a $60 credit
    4. Realize I chose the wrong grocery store Coinstar to buy Bitcoin
    5. Cash out the credit
    6. Drive to Safeway and put the $60 into another Coinstar machine and buy like .0008477595927267474737374891 of Bitcoin
    7. Profit!

    My $60 is now worth a whopping $90 something.

    Still not sure I want to put any REAL money into crypto tho. As many of you have said, I don’t really GET it.

    Are there crypto mutual funds?

    Agreed; except I’m considering Doogcoin. Getting in early. It’s going to blow ... up.

    @Baseman @GrundleStiltzkin any sponsoring comments?
    Coogcoin was a good investment for a few years. It always crashed hard around Thanksgiving though. After the first 7 times you’d think one would sell before then. But Coogs gotta Coog.
    At least they let you tim the market. Frankly, I'd sell Coog coin in late July, as hope springs eternal for "this year," then buy again October. Lather, rinse, repeat.